I'm freaking out here, Julie Plec made Katerina human, I mean Katherine nwas my favourite character before Rebekah came along, to me the whole point of Season 1 and 2 was for the Salvatores to be with KATHERINE. What are your thoughts on this?
I'm freaking out here, Julie Plec made Katerina human, I mean Katherine nwas my favourite character before Rebekah came along, to me the whole point of Season 1 and 2 was for the Salvatores to be with KATHERINE. What are your thoughts on this?
ElijahKatherineFan89 wrote:
Why would change her state of mind? I hardly think it would. Aside from immortal stripping I think her blood will, once again, be some kind of magic agent but aside from that I don't think much will change with her personality aside from the fact that she'll have to be more careful or she'll risk her new "freedom".
It could easily cause mayhem with her mind I would think. We already know that vampires have a huge change in the psychology department... Plus if you remember Katherine's flashback from when she was a human, she was just a sweet cottage girl living in a small hamlet in Eastern Europe.
What if the cure has wild side effects that we don't even (but we can only imagine of, like this one example) know of yet since it WAS designed for Silas and HIS immortality spell...? What if Katherine suddenly lost all of her memory (or large sporadic chunks, especially when she did evil things and always when she "flipped the switch") except her human life? She'd instantly become Stefan's biggest fan overnight since she'd be far more like a sweet, but far more confident (and cunning with some manipulation) version of Elena.
There are A LOT of things that can happen in that first episode and we can certainly be sure of one thing... It WON'T be "as expected", some, "thing", will happen. Otherwise the writers will shoot themselves in the foot going forward...and they'll be limping the rest of the season.
ElijahKatherineFan89 wrote:
Why would change her state of mind? I hardly think it would. Aside from immortal stripping I think her blood will, once again, be some kind of magic agent but aside from that I don't think much will change with her personality aside from the fact that she'll have to be more careful or she'll risk her new "freedom".
It could easily cause mayhem with her mind I would think. We already know that vampires have a huge change in the psychology department... Plus if you remember Katherine's flashback from when she was a human, she was just a sweet cottage girl living in a small hamlet in Eastern Europe.
What if the cure has wild side effects that we don't even (but we can only imagine of, like this one example) know of yet since it WAS designed for Silas and HIS immortality spell...? What if Katherine suddenly lost all of her memory (or large sporadic chunks, especially when she did evil things and always when she "flipped the switch") except her human life? She'd instantly become Stefan's biggest fan overnight since she'd be far more like a sweet, but far more confident (and cunning with some manipulation) version of Elena.
There are A LOT of things that can happen in that first episode and we can certainly be sure of one thing... It WON'T be "as expected", some, "thing", will happen. Otherwise the writers will shoot themselves in the foot going forward...and they'll be limping the rest of the season.
/Posted this once, but somehow it was swallowed (not even moved by a moderator--or if it was they left no reason and or history of it's transfer transfer) up into the Wikia ether and put onto the "empty board"--no joke. So here it is again, though quite a few days older than when I first intended to have it on here.
I suppose you're right, it could happen but there's two reasons they chose Katherine to take the cure, they wanted someone to take it and that person will be important for the plot as well as giving the person a change of their life. While it may mess with her head I don't think it will change her personality. I agree however that they should add the part of taking the cure as meaning something to the plotline but I think it will be more relevant to what Silas is going to do rather than a direct change or turn of her personality that Stefan or others will see her differently, that will come more naturally as she learns to accept being a human again. That's my theory at least.
As for her being a sweet cottage girl, this is taking it out of context. She had "indescrations" that made her become pregnant with someone she probably don't remember the name of, she adapted to become "English" when she was banished from her family, she was smart enough to find out that Klaus wanted something dubious with her and when she got proof, she took the moonstone as leverage and immediately ran, used Trevor and Rose so she could become a vampire, being useless to Klaus and run, increasing her survivability tremendously. The point of this is that becoming a vampire has been established it never changes someone, it only magnifies the person you're so Katherine or Katerina always had that cunning part of her as human.
I can easily imagine that if she had not met either Trevor, Elijah or Klaus as vampires in the 1400s she would have used her charm to trap some nobleman, taking over his home and establish herself as one, increasing her survability and a chance for a better life that she kind of lost in Bulgaria.
Fredrico 2011 wrote: Katherine got a better a shot dealing with Elijah then Klaus.............
It is not whether she has a better shot a dealing with Elijah than Klaus, it is that she has to deal with Klaus. Because for most of her existence she has been running from Klaus, it has robbed her of any possible chance of happiness. Being human will lesson the fear she has of Klaus. Hopefully she will have the strength to overcome this fear, so that she can finally have happiness. Without dealing with Klaus, she will never find happiness, because she will still be running.
I agree with basically everything you're saying, but I think the key part however in her past that made her such a manipulative, lying, and semi-evil person was the events that happened to her. Specifically and most profoundly the loss of her child AND then the entire murder of her family followed shortly by a plan to sacrifice her at some alter for greater power by those who had "claimed" to love her just earlier, especially when one of them was none other than the person responsible for murdering her family. When she became a vampire all of the hate was amplified and finally for Katherine there was not a choice that allowed her to mentally turn around, because vampires can't and don't seem to be able to work like that--instead she did what every other vampire has done when they couldn't do what a human would: she shut off her humanity (though it slowly came back, but it had marked her forever by then).
For the first time in katherine's life she may be able to do things psychologically that she has NEVER been able to accomplish while a vampire, like truly grieving for her family, accepting that Elena IS a descendant of HERS--something she should cherish above almost everything, but she didn't, ever unless she "had a purpose". I think we will find out that becoming a human again DOES open a lot of doors for a once vampire that have been completely sealed shut, for a very, very long time.
But, the problemand one possible plot scenario I see coming into play is our brand new Silas doppleganger meeting up with Katherine the human (though probably also still a doppleganger as well, who knows however, as we really don't have any clue as to what that "fruit punch" actually cures or has absolute and complete effect upon). We know that even Katherine the vampire, deep down still had something for Stefan--though I think she has known for a long time that he wouldn't truly take her back after misleading them and leaving things like she did... But now as a human, after some initial shock and thoughts of going back to a vampire (which I'm sure we'll find out that "path" is "blocked" or meaningless for her to bother with now thanks to the cure), she will indeed start to try to reclaim a bit of her life and love may just be the thing that makes her start to "live" once again.
The problem is, is that the real Stefan is at the bottom of the mining pond/lake inside a safe. So Katherine, in my guess for some of the semi-early plot sequences (I'd guess around episode 8'ish--give or take a few), will start falling for Stefan--the Silas Stefan, but perhaps in 4-5 episodes she'll realize something really wrong is up and in fact it WILL BE her past life's difficulties to some degree that give her the warning of things being amiss. Unless Jeremy gets a random visit from "put name of ghost here" before said events occur and give him the information to sigh (hah) Stefan out of the water.
We'll see, but I truly believe that IF the human thing really does stick for Katherine, her personal dream of being together with Stefan again just may in fact happen (especially since we got a big 'ol stupid hint of exactly this in the last season's finale from Lexi). I also believe that while Katherine will remain very stron and a very willful person, I do believe she will slowly start to become a better one... After all, ALL of the Petrova dopplegangers are the same person...just in different circumsatnces... That is exactly why they are supernatural in the first place and not just a weird form of "twins".
/my two or three cents
Interesting points, some I even hadn't thought about. Her personal dream being with Stefan is highly possible since she's now human and Elena is with Damon as a vampire, also, while we may have been led to believe that Stefan always thought Elena was his "soul mate" (and the fact that he felt he could always trust Elena because they're more alike) or whatever Katherine was his first love, that probably means more to him than he realizes (proof of this is in Memory Lane when Katherine's confesses that she never compelled Stefan's love, a fact he assumed all those 145 years which probably left him in a much easier state than Damon) but this show has a tendancy to only keep love in short moments to keep up the excitement and frankly, makes it much more believable and more powerful or valuable for lack of a better word so I think it will end tragically for both of them due to their involvement with Silas' past. A hint to this is that they're supernatural linked with whatever started the doppelgängers, if the original die, just like vampires, then the rest die too. Then maybe there will be loopholes like a vampire can't die as a doppelgänger because technically they're already dead and their doppelgänger status is inactive.
And yes! I definitely agree about doppelgängers being the same person, it's just that they always end up in different circumstances. It will be interesting to see the similarities between Silas and Stefan just as with Katherine and Elena.
ElijahKatherineFan89 wrote:
And yes! I definitely agree about doppelgängers being the same person, it's just that they always end up in different circumstances. It will be interesting to see the similarities between Silas and Stefan just as with Katherine and Elena.
When Elena was hallucinating in "We all go mad a little sometimes" Katherine did say that she was Elena before Elena was Elana. It would also explain why it was faily easy for Katherine to impersonate Elena.
Great, Now Klaus can go back to hunting Katherine to make hybrids instead of Elena.
Well if Elena kills Katherine then the cure was a waste. Oooooh great one less vamp to worry about REALLY.