So in the season finale, Silas explained that his dobbelganger (Stefan) was created when he made himself a true immortal, as a shadow. What could this mean for the Petrova Dobbelgangers? We previously assumed that Tatia was the original, but what if Qetsiyah is the true original of their line?
I think that Sila's girl was not immortal. Qetsiayah killed her to punish Silas after betraying her. Kind of also leaning on the theory that Elena and Katherine come from Sila's love. The most annoying thing is that we wait for next season! Oh well....
Yes it's all the same bloodline, Katherine had a baby before becoming a vampire that's why Elena could exist. And I don't think you need to be immortal to have doppelgangers; if anything, immortality makes you not count as a doppelganger anymore, at least not in Klaus' curse, the doppelganger had to be human for that.
Hmmm, but I thought Silas explained that the reason dobbelgangers exist is to provide a loophole for true immortality - whatever that means.
But if the shadowselves were also immortal it wouldn't be a loophole.. you turn someone into an immortal being, which is unspeakable in nature's eyes, so you then create that same person as one who can die, in order to fill the immortal's place and appease nature. At least in Stefan's case, I don't know about the Petrova line, they seem to serve an entirely different purpose..
I think the Petrova doppelgangers and Stefan being Silas' doppelganger are two different things. It seems as though vampires created through magic (rather than being turned by dying with vampire blood in their system) are all unique, as the spells to create them use different natural objects to grant them immortality (such as the sun and the white oak tree, in the case of the Originals). So while Silas is technically a vampire, as he feeds on human blood, his skills are completely different than those of Klaus, Rebekah, Elijah, etc.
Esther created the Petrova doppelgangers by using Tatia's blood for the spell, and the doppelganger was created as a loophole to undo the spell that made them vampires (as well as to remove the hybrid curse on Klaus). HOWEVER, from what Silas said in the finale, NATURE, not a witch, created his doppelganger/shadow-self (Stefan) as a loophole because it could not stand for the imbalance of power being truly immortal created.
Since Silas' doppelganger wasn't an intentional creation, I have a feeling Silas and Stefan's story is going to be different than the story of Tatia, Katherine and Elena as the Petrova doppelgangers. (I do believe that the doppelgangers exist in a bloodline [as in a blood relative/descendent] because then doppelgangers could continue to be created over time, as long as the family line continued.
Interesting, does that mean that if Stefan died, 'nature' would be obliged to make yet another Silas dobbelganger?
That might actually be possible, yes.. What confused me, was that i originally had the idea that if you killed Sila's doppelganger, he would die too - thus the nature's way to maintain balance (since Silas can't die, something was created to "kill" him). That's what i assumed when i first saw the episode, and it would then make some sense in why didn't Silas kill Stefan, but dropped him in a lake instead. Any thoughts?
^^^ That is what I thought as well. If nature needs to find a balance for an immortal, it needs to create something/someone which could actually end the immortality isnt? In Silas's case, if Stefan is his shadow self and a 'mortal', then killing Stefan would kill Silas? They are linked? Other than this explanation, I am not at all able to grasp what Silas means by creating shadow-self that could die to balance out? How will it be a balance if the shadow-self dies? Because Silas is still alive! Someone please enlighten!
I want to carry this argument further because I believe Graduation explains why Tatia is not the originator but was simply a doppelganger herself She Cannot be the start of the petrovas because of what Silas explained .You see the Silas doppelganger phenomenon has opened only one true explanation that dopelgangers exist to balance immortality
On the one hand it would make sense exactly why Tatia had to die in the ritual to make the mikaelsons immortal....she is an off shot of a true immortal and therefore is a key ingredient for any immortality spell after the one done on the first originator just as was done on Silas. Now you may ask why dont Mikaleson's have doppelgangers?.Simple reason is when they were created they were not created to be invincible(the white oak stake was the fail safe). If Tatia died it makes no sense for dopelgangers to be made for her sinse she is dead , therefore we must assume she is merely a clone of an earlier Petrova
However there is a problem if dopelgangers are the shadow dying reflections of an undying immortal that brings us to the crucial issue....Does that mean the Petrova who has her doppelgangers is still alive just as Silas is? If that is so she cannot be Silas' lover because we are told Silas' lover is dead...OR could we be in for a shock that Qetsia thought she is dead but Silas perhaps using magic or his immortal blood animated her in stasis to remain alive but dessicated himself in the process? Now while she may not be walking the earth maybe Silas will try to animate her fully...It would be interesting to explore that if that were his goal for season 5
What do you think?