i think with expression, bonnie would destroy davina but without it bonnie would be killed easily.
And by the way, i think you guys are seeing bonnie weak because you are not realising how strong the heretics are, i personally think that bonnie is really strong and if she was face with a normal vampire no matter the age ahe would kik ass, i mean its the heretics 170 years old vampires with witch power, hybrids and hybrids are known to be sronger we all know what a werewolf/vampire can do and bonnie was easily capable to take them down in the past with no much magic, now with much strong power bonnie cannot take an heretic down a vampire/witch do you guys get how strong the heretics are. what im trying to say is that its not that bonnie is weak its just that the heretics are too strong for her.. just like the originals first came to town.. and its not the fault of the writers because of they put a trong bonnie with lots of power...bonnie would just kill the heretics and end of the show,, when bonnie had her expressions it was because there were stronger character liike silas so the writers write her as strong as the vilaine so she could have a chance to defeat her ennemies
I am back to weigh in on the debate about who the strongest witch is/was.
So, in terms of overall power - Dahlia was the most powerful. She could do things that most witches couldn't even begin to think of. If the supposed "most powerful witch in the world" (Ester) couldn't even compare to Dahlia, then we know for sure that Dahlia is powerful. What if Dahlia was still around, could you just imagine what she could have accomplished? She was connected to Freya which amplifiyed her powers ten-fold, and if she would have connected to Faith, that would have made her MUCH more powerful.
In terms of credibility - Qetsiyah. She was credited with creating a spell that would turn someone immortal. That's NO easy task. I am sure Qetsiyah was a really really powerful witch, and could do what Dahlia did, but we honestly do not know for a fact. I wish they would have expanded upon the amount of Qetsiyah's power.
Freya is currently the most powerful witch, not Davina. Davina is the reagent, but that does not mean she has all these powers that she can use. She almost bled out trying to get help from the ancestors. Freya doesn't need that, she could use any type of magic she pleases.
Davina is growing into her powers and herself. I am glad that she was given this role as Reagent, but I am tired of the lack of story behind it. The writers are making this season go by really slowly. I wish Davina had a mentor like Freya, who could help her understand what it means to be a witch. These other Witches won't help her because they either don't like her, or fear that they will be killed. Freya being the most powerful witch will definitely help Davinagain credibility if she were to be mentored by Freya.
Bonnie is still a pretty great witch. But boy am I pretty pissed off with the writers of TVD. (WRITERS - IF YOU ARE READING THIS THREAD PLEASE KEEP READING THIS; ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE A TVD WRITER).
Hi, yes. Remember Bonnie? She's a character who fucking kicked ass. She basically kicked Silas's ass, told Klaus to kiss her's, faced a shit ton of different types of branches of magic, and kicked its ass. Can we please stop making her look so fucking helpless?! Bonnie is my FAVORITE character in the entire series (even though I am in love with Kai). She is unique - but in Season 6/7, she rarely showed a lot of strength. Season 6, she was struggling to get her powers, which makes sense. BUT SEASON 7, SHE HAS ACTED LIKE A NEW WITCH.
If Season 7 is the last season for The Vampire Diaries, PLEASE, give Bonnie a spot on The Originals. She is one of the characters I love the most, and I can honestly say she would kick ass in New Orleans. I want her to maybe learn some magic from Freya, and help Davina with her powers.
Even though Dahlia was born a first born witch, she wasn't powerful enough to fight-off a group of vikings on her own until she channelled Freya's magic. She also was a Dark Magic user( and we all know that Dark magic is a short-cut or quick fix), she also augmented her powers for 1000 years. So in actual fact Qetsiyah is naturally more powerful than Dahlia, because she was using Traditional magic which is the hardest kind of magic to accomplish the most immpossible feats that even powered-up Dahlia couldn't. If Qetsiyah channelled another witch as powerful as her, used Dark Magic and augmented her powers for 1000 years, she'd suppass Dahlia easily. Qetsiyah is a naturally more powerful than Dahlia who had help from multple sources.
Credibility wise Qetsiyah remains number one. She was the mistress of death and life, and didn't even fear death at all. Dahlia was in fact afraid of death. Qetsiyah's immortality spell was untouchable, even by nature. She created the cure as well. She was the originator of spirit magic, and The Other side ( a whole dimension). She was even worshipped by a cult. She was also just in her 20's when she did all of these. She succeeded at every single thing she wanted to do, with her own power, unlike Dahlia who couldn't even with all that power.
oh my god, i totally agree with you, finally someone whos not writing nonsense
Lets clear things up allot of powerful spells requires the blood of a Bennet as powerfull as you think Davina is Bonnie was born into Bennet bloodline which are a line that can be traced back 1000 or even more which indicates her magic is old and who can disagree that old magic is always the strongest Bonnie has done incredible feats like channel the power of 100 witches including Bennet witches her Ancestor created a demension that would trap every supernatural creature which is a spell that is incredibly powerful as it contains all kinds of creature all around the world for a 1000 years imagine how much power is needed to contain all of those supernatural beings lets not forget Bonnie has been able to sustain expression which is so dark that witches dont even credit it as magic she has the ONLY witch to do that imagine channeling the power of the Spirits,darkness and expression which greatly exedes Davina by a long long shot she was able to desecate one of the oldest and also very powerful immortal being which means she will be able to take on the Originals with ease I blame tue writters of TVD for not making Bonnie show her powers more than it was supposed to be Lets not forget that Bonnie was able to bring down the veil which Davina could not
um, if davina had the power of all 3 of the harvest girls, then she would win, but if bonnie was standing near were the 100 witches were killed then bonnie would win.
but idk maybe if they both had the power from their ancestors then it would be an even match......
but if it were made of teams then kol,marcel, and maybe elijah would help davina....and stefan,damon, elena, and caroline would help bonnie....... sooooo......... :/
um, if davina had the power of all 3 of the harvest girls, then she would win, but if bonnie was standing near were the 100 witches were killed then bonnie would win.
but idk maybe if they both had the power from their ancestors then it would be an even match......
but if it were made of teams then kol,marcel, and maybe elijah would help davina....and stefan,damon, elena, and caroline would help bonnie....... sooooo......... :/
but bonnie also can channel a bunch of power from her other ancestors.....
while davina still has the power until they have to compete the harvest again
Bonnie channeling 100 witches is different from what Davina had. Bonnie was using Spirit Magic and you can use it because the Spirit allow you to do so, so Bonnie could use it because the dead witches accepted it.
But Davina's power wasn't only the power of 3 witches, it was ALL the power of the ancestral magic that was in New Orleans, because without completing the Harvest then ALL the Ancestral Magic would have faded away and when Davina was going out of control everyone affirmed that at the peak of power New Orleans would have been completely destroyed! An entire great city!
In terms of their own magic (just their own power without power ups like harvest, channeling or expression), Davina is way stronger than Bonnie. Witches of New Orleans proved to be way more powerful than TVD witches. Even Silas, who should have been one of the strongest witch of history died against a vampire of 150 years with a knife, while when New Orleans witches use the same spell to wound the brain of the vampires they can't even move, while Stefan was able to kill Silas while he was attacking him with that spell.
In terms of their own magic, Bonnie is way stronger. How can you even count ancestral magic as the personal magic of the NO witches? The only personal magic on the show is traditional magic, so Bonnie's way above Davina, probably Liv and the Gemini coven are too. Davina may be a great witch with ancestral magic, but as far as we know, she's maybe tapped into traditional magic (her own magic) once or twice, therefore Bonnie wins in the "personal magic" department. Infact, most traditional witches would probably win in a fight with the ancestral witches if the latter also used their traditional magic.
where is that person who said that bonnie can't be killed because she is dead.
i lol on him.even at this point where your precious davina is dead,if by any chance happens to be alive would really get her a** kicked by bonnie.she is a hunterss now with enhance strength and skill where no magic could harm her.