I mean they have definitely made him more of a dbag this season and im conflicted cause it shows he aint a saint exactly so it kills the idea these students arent perfect but it makes him unlikeable, i thought he treated jed pretty poorly in their last encounter, he did exactly what he was mad to kaleb about to someone else

Right now he is a character i dont care much for and as long as they dont activate his ripper side he is just a meh character

I respect your opinion but I don't feel like he's awfull.

1. Isn't contradictory? You seem to blame him doing nothing but you also blame him when he decides to do his hero thing.

2. It's kinda normal. It's Landon who has force MG to speak to his father when he has said several times he doesn't want to do it.

3. I agree. I don't remember the scenes precisely but it wasn't cool to say that to Wade.

4. Not really opinions because I defend both sides.

5. I didn't understand what you meant.

6. MG has been described as "a failure because his worth has always been tied to others' approval. Unfortunately from his experience, approval/acceptance is the only way to achieve happiness." So yeah in a way I guess he's trying to be friends with the popular but it's just to feel accepted (it's not a crime) and he never force Kaleb to be his friend.

Honestly, I just don’t like this superhero angle they have going on with him. Not to mention how they haven’t really had him address his ripper issues. 😎

Its cause this show is desperately trying to be like the other superhero shows on cw, i cant name them

The ripper thing is something I dont have faith they will ever do anything with, Id personally like to see a storyline revolving around how to cure ripperism....the closest I got is bring an original in to compel him to be in control around blood, id like to see whose willpower is stronger

Ugh, if that’s really the case. The writers and The CW need to relax with the super hero thing.

They really should though. For character development purposes. Especially if they are going to have him doing more random hero jobs like saving people from burning buildings or bank robbery’s. Even Stefan had tried to work on his ripper issues. MG doesn’t need to be compelled to stop being a ripper he just needs to figure out what makes him want to bury himself in his bloodlust. A ripper is just someone trying to bury their guilt and sadness with blood.

Yeah idk if that will change or not and tbh im not against a vampire who is dressed in a costume, ive never seen that which would be what mg and kaleb do, its the entire tone of the show is obviously replicated from one of the shows on the network, again i cant say but anyone who knows exactly what im talking about

Yeah we all have ideas, just have to see how it all pans out

Even going back to season 4 when elena lost her switch i wanted an original which they had rebekah who could just compel her to turn the switch on, they dont take advantage of their allies

ElaenaOriginal, I also respect your opinion.

1) He's not doing anything interesting, but when he does the hero's thing it is very uninteresting because of his intetntions to be good to be respected.

2) There is a bit of a difference because he told him to confront his father who was supposed to have different principles and not respect that MG became a vampire and make a career on his death. He didn't tell him to talk to his father, who doesn't know he's still alive.

5) I have the impression that MG only helps to be a superhero, while Lizzie (in season 1) is more selfless even when posing as the leader / star of the team. The MG, on the other hand, makes a spectacle of himself, such as when they fight the Triad. Because her first thought in the moment of danger is to save others, for example situation with the Gargoyle.

6) I never said he forced Kaleb into friendship. However, in my experience, people who are your friends because you are popular or have something cool are not true friends. Because they accept you not for your but because you are popular and everyone wants to hang out with you and they want to be among the "elite" even though you may not be their friendship type.

Sean 175 and Tommy,Klaus&Kol2012+, I agree with you both. I don't understand why they need pseudo superheroes theme. Initially, when the MG discussed the hero thing with Nia, Kaleb, Lizzie etc. I thought it would just be that it would just inspire him to do good but in such a normal way without the costumes. I think they could leave that he wanted to try to help others with Ethan because it's like an introduction to his helping story arc that he started but then I think they should limit it to just mentioning that for e.g. "MG is out there helping with something" or "MG last night helped to extinguish the fire " or " during the summer, MG helped to put in jail the gang but until there isn't a story for e.g. that one of the victims saw MG's abilites and decided to find him, I think that they should stop to show random rescue actions of MG and Kaleb that do not contribute anything to the plot.

I think the ripper plot is better. Because as Sean said, it would be cool to see MG try to hold back his desire to kill and to see his whole process of struggling with it and his work on it. You know his "learning" over some aspect of his vampirism.

So I will come back in the end to the things with heroes. I'm not saying that it couldn't be done well. It could be done just by trying to help when they can without costumes (as I said before) or in such a way that the Super Squad is called into Supernatural cases by different communities (a bit like in 1x10 with Mikaelson Boarding School Hope, Kaleb, Jed and Pedro). Because I honestly didn't mind Ethan and MG hero thing even when I knew they were planning the costumes. It started to annoy me the most when the costumes came to the superhero thing. And since there are no superheroes in TVDU, wearing costumes seems idiotic to me, especially as nobody sees them.