Aurora de Martel

Since Hope triggered her vampire side, so many assumptions have been made by FANS and not creator’s of the show. One of them being she has the strength of an Original, which is FALSE. Hope’s vampire side is her weakest side, everyone knows strength comes with AGE, when Katherine was turned she didn’t automatically gain the strength of a 500 year old vampire, it was given to her over time. Same can be said for ALL The Original Vampires and normal vampires. People say Hope is stronger than all The Originals and any other ancient Vampire. Witchcraft wise that is true, her magic is what makes her deadly but strength wise Hope isn’t that powerful. I’m just annoyed with seeing people say she can subdue people like Rebekah or Kol or even Marcel for that matter with just her strength when we all know that’s not how vampirism works.

Before you attack me take this into consideration. In S4 of Legacies at the carnival when Hope meets the ancient Vampire he tells her “You find out how hard it is to fight someone centuries older than you” to which she replies “that might be a little PROBLEM for me if i only were a creature of the night” meaning if she didn’t have her witchcraft powers he would’ve subdued her. Secondly before you attack me, in S4 again on the last episode Hope’s witchcraft was disabled against Aurora, forcing her into hand to hand combat which she ultimately FAILED because Aurora subdued her and cut her with red oak TWICE.

Let’s not forget Hope literally had to get the staff out of Auroras hands just to finally get the upper hand by using MAGIC obviously.

This goes to show without her magic, Hope doesn’t really have any other forms of fighting, unless the vampire is a freshly turned then she would definitely subdue them. If she honestly had the strength and skills of an Original, She would’ve fought that Carnival vampire without magic, she would’ve subdued Aurora in 0.5 seconds andd might i add she would’ve heard Rebekah coming from behind her with the dagger in 4x05. I love Hope, i do but this is something the entire fandom needs to accept. She can compel people because her father was an Original, that doesn’t mean she has equal strength to an Original as well. If you want to prove me wrong then by all means, go ahead but if you’re not coming with facts like i just did then don’t come at ALL.

I still wonder why on earth the CW hasn't given the green light for a Trinity series? or Aurora? She was a huge success when she appeared in Legacies!, and it wasn't a big deal but she has a good audience, I would even like something like Aurora manipulating everyone like Klaus did, she could be the protagonist of the series, it would be a real madness to each episode because she caused a lot of trouble.

what did you think of the end of Aurora? if Julie doesn't spoil her ending, and she ends up getting back together with Ken?

Im going to get alot of hate for this maybe but I gave it a 2nd thought I think malivore should have remained the main villain of legacies through the whole way. There was a point where I did want a villain season by season and I was sick of malivore but Im at a point where Id rather take a single stretched out villain who gets full character progression than these quicker newer ones cause take in instance who we are having as final villain which is ken which yeah he has cool powers and menacing but he has a dull persona and by tomorrow he will be in the show for what his fifth time? and probably get killed tomorrow, that isnt enough time to develop a big villain. And to me the whole end of the world plot is so overdone and not realistic in a sense cause lets say he did do that, he'd have an empty planet to rule over and whether aurora be at his side or not, I feel he would go insane due to boredom from lack of people, it be one thing if he hates himself and everyone who lives and breathes and he wants to take down everyone with him but that isnt the case here, he wants to rule over nothing. At least malivore wanted to target specific groups, we never got fully explanation of why but at least it wasnt ending everyone.

And yeah there is aurora who is a stretched out villain but it just seems to be repetitive where she falls for these men who arent meant for her but her vampire side is barely explored not to mention the one man who was not toxic to her she wanted no part of aka lucien.

I think what happened why malivore got taken away, okay Im speculating Im not saying this is concrete proof but I think fan backlash over the malivore character drove plans away cause he was originally meant to be a threat over entire series to seperate himself from typical tvd villains. I think had he stayed in landon in 3x04, none of this seperation thing it would have came off better cause he finally have a voice and believable form other than playdoh statue, had him stop bringing out monsters, use physical and mental attacks on hope and the students, all these methods tried to use to kill him and it dont work, he eventually becomes full on phoenix he fights tribrid hope in the finale and hope of course kills him but it feels more earned I suppose is the word. Idk if any of you agree with me or not. Cause I dont care what anyone says even if you hate the malivore character, just the concept of his dimension is terrifying, being alone in darkness forever, that is much more terrifying than killing a character who ends up going to peace anyway.

Regarding the remaining villains-ken, aurora, necromancer and maybe zied, ferryman and the gods who should be the ones to defeat them and why should it be your pick?

Oddly enough it dont seem there is mention of the mother of gods, ken didnt really go to awake her from the coffins cause we find out there is no mother in the coffins but just kens kids, he also made a play for aurora as his queen so what is your thoughts, do you think all the children are half gods of ken sleeping with other women?, or idk perhaps in a golem origin tale that makes sense and made a golem female for himself to impregnate and make kids. Im just speculating, what is your thoughts. I dont want it to be another esther/lily situation where they are away only to show up later on, that is boring trope at this point.

So i just watched 04x12 of Legacies and if gods can go back to time that means every single person who died can come back to life or otherwise just stop it like never happened. What's your opinion about this? I actually like it but i don't think that can happen without consequences.

Here are the choices of whom should take her spot, please add why you pick that choice, only 1 choice since only 1 actor left

Choices-

Clarke

Ted/necromancer

Wade

Finch

Ben

Aurora

Sphinx

Dorian

Vardemus

A new character

A past character

For me its either clarke or aurora but clarke has to become supernatural again and its cause they have a vast history to explore into. I kind of want ted to become regular but if he cant bring back characters again from the dead, then he is just a boring witch.

Are there any characters you guys still would like to get into a tussle?

For me a few of them would be-

Hope vs hybrid lizzie

Hope vs aurora

They might be setting up for sphinx vs ferryman which heck yes bring that on

I want to see ethan in another fight possibly against mg cause I think it will be revealed ethan has a hidden supernatural ability that dont come out unless times of danger like landon with his fire wings

Id like to see caroline and kol return to fight some powerful enemy at some point

Cause vardemus is coming back Id like to see him in a fight too and not just talk

Kai Parker

Aurora De Martel

The Hollow

Markos (Leader of the travelers)

Silas

Qet (Tessa)

Dahila

Esther

I would like you to include a reason why as well if you don’t want to then that is fine as well I just want to know your opinions on theses villains.

Is there a villain or villains in this 17 season franchise you want to see gain redemption that havent yet? Im going to give some options-

Kai

Aurora

Malivore

Silas

The majority of monsters

Triad

Im even going to say the necromancer cause technically ted is another personality of necromancer but isnt truly him

Any other villain who died evil, im not going to put katherine and I hope I dont have to explain why at this point.

I was thinking about it and I think Ben is a god or something. Because when Aurora mentioned the box to trap a tribrid she said it was powerful enough to trap a god. Ben said if he came back something worse is coming so could it be vengeful gods like from the Greek/Roman myths? What are your thoughts?

So overall I liked the episode but I do have a few minor complaints. Like the other 2 triad members should’ve put up more of a fight and the fact that Hope just became an Alpha randomly is so weird. On another note, I’m super happy Aurora is back! I loved her in TO and I can’t wait to se more of her. (Rebecca is now a recurring character). The body switch twist was epic and completely unexpected. I can totally see Josie being a doctor/surgeon in the future I think it suits her. I also think that if Lizzie goes after Hope she’ll die, I normally LOVE Lizzie but she’s been really annoying these past couple episodes, I do hope that she turns though, that would be awesome

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Since Hope went into the body of Aurora does that mean that her humanity would be restored because she is in another body or does it not count?

Please help me out here.

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Major question, how is it possible for Aurora to be the vampire that helped create Malivore? She wasn’t created yet. If malivore was around when Cleo was that small then Malivore should be well before Auroras time. So can the job get passed down? I thought it had to be the original witch, vampire, and werewolf. So is this just a plot hole? Or does someone know what I’m missing and can elaborate? My roommate and I are very confused. Please and thank you if you can!

I have a theory I need to get out of my head. I think the person who is in charge of the Vampire faction is Aurora. Here's why. 1 she technically never died cause all Niklaus did was put her into a wall she may have been desiccated and someone may have found her. 2 the accent of the lady sounded all too familiar, like compared to her the similarities are easy to find. 3 she has a motive for wanting to kill Hope and she also may have the means, her and her brother (along with Lucien) were on the run. They grew from nothing to being successful business men/women so it wouldn't be hard to believe that she somehow made it to the top of Triad and became the leading member for the Vampire faction. Thanks for reading this long theory, tell me your thoughts too.

I might have missed something but I recall them saying in the originals that the hollow would need to be transferred into a powerful supernatural creature. Could Alaric' twins have siphoned it and placed it in aurora and then killed her, instead of letting klaus die with the hollow?