Dimensions

So as most people know hellfire is a psychic imprint of the moment of Cades Death. So his dimension is full of it. And as of his death no one else should be able to summon hellfire. But in episode 1x1 of Legacies while touring the school Josie said that Dorian incinerated himself with hellfire. But shouldn’t that have killed him? Especially if she used the word incinerated. Anyways do you think it was an exaggeration to get Rafael to apply to the school, or is hellfire truely still a thing in tvdu?

at any point was it mentioned that gods can create other dimensions? witches can Qetsyah and the Ancestors created new dimensions, and only two psychics were able Bonnie and Arcadius, I think maybe this may be the limit for the gods that nature has imposed after, gods like Ken seem to have no limits in terms of power, at least Ken?, he apparently can kill very easily knowing a lot of other mortal/supernatural lives (Aurora and Tristan? I think at this point I think maybe he could see Aurora memories). I had the slight impression that maybe psychics could be maybe a new breach of the nature for the gods? I imagine psychics can trap gods in dimension after death?.

I remember she was not stopped by any spiritual plane, and even by the Ancestors, she continued to receive power from her sacrificial rituals, not to mention that she freely acted like an unrestrained spirit when her followers began making hundreds of sacrifices for her in their first centuries dead, Nature did not look for ways to stop her, and some users say she crossed the limits of Nature as being confined to a spiritual plane, and interfere and receive sacrificial power non-stop from various places, Nature Should have interfered in some way.

Shouldn't the witch who created Malivore be more powerful than she was shown to be?

She literally created a living, almost immortal dimension. Other witches channeled the full moon, the sun, and even a different celestial event to create dimensions or immortality, but the witch just gathered the blood of a vampire, werewolf and hers to create that creature. She basically used her natural power, just used black magic.

I personally think if we are to get a new villain its going to be because of the mistranslated from Alaric regarding the wish device and create an entirely new being made of water and because its never existed before it will be extremely difficult if not impossible to kill it cause there is no lore on it. And perhaps it will use its magical water portals as dimensions to bring in the malivore creatures instead of another malivore portal.

If the Necromancer and Alyssa succeed in bringing all the monsters out of Malivore, is is possible the Super Squad will try to make another plane of existence like the Other Side to trap them all?

Why Landon didn't meet Klaus? I said this in some discussion but appearance of Klaus doesn't require Joseph Morgan. It could be scene like this: Rafael leaves Landon alone in the room with Hope (back to the camera), and suddenly a person dressed like Klaus appears behind him and when he turns back end of the scene. Then when the Necromancer would resurrect him, Landon could tell Hope that he had met her father.

A beautiful scene that would show Klaus is indeed looking after her beyond grave.

If he is no longer to become a puddle dimension and into a solid being, how do you think stakes will be raised? Cause you got to look at it like this, all the hero characters are atm designed for peace if they die so they are getting a happy ending, malivore according to the lore cannot absorb the main 3 species, they can be tossed into him sure but he cant pull them into him however he can kill them other ways but im more concerned for the stakes of the villians. As of now there really isnt a hell dimension left if malivore becomes the way he is, I mean technically he is but only if he grabs them or if they are tossed into him, I have no idea how he will absorb beings in landons body if they go that route. Cause all other dimensions in this verse are destroyed until proven otherwise and unless they reveal ghosts can be turned into nothing, like the true death, I mean there is evidence for and against killing ghosts.

The most I feel they could do is worse fate than death trope like necromancer for example maybe isnt killed but locked in a coffin and buried underground for eternity, but what do you all think will happen regarding the stakes/tension of the villians cause Im sure the hero characters are getting a happy ending for the most part, the only way Id be concerned is if the said hero dies and again their soul is obliterated.

So because the prison world is presumably gone now and malivore will sooner or later not be a black pit anymore, do you think any hell dimensions will remain? Cause all there will be left is peace and the name implies it all meaning the tension of being evil when you die is gone.

I heard Kai mention Bonnies new married name, and I’m wondering if she let Enzo escape her little dimension she created when he died and find peace. Bc I cant see her new husband being in favor of the former love of her life still technically haunting her, while they're married lol.

I know, its possible I suppose a soul could become totally destroyed and ceased to exist, but lets say its not and that a soul will live forever but it needs to be placed in a containment of sorts, well maybe there are souls who are too bad to put in peace, like maybe cade cause he created hell even if it was an accident, the person who monitors peace might see him as upsetting the balance and cast him away, but to where exactly, he wasnt put in malivore cause even after stefan stabbed him, he was mentioned so it wasnt some big gap in the mfgs memories or anything. I see malivore as oblivion i guess, just a place of eternal darkness. But im sure there are souls who didnt make it to peace, so what dimensions or dimension would you think they'd be put into?, purgatory has been explored, hell has been explored, the prison world is currently occupied by kai and can only be accessed by a bennett or gemini witch so we're kind of out of places to put the souls except back on earth, maybe they are put on another planet like mars or something.

People might say all the bad souls just go to peace because like dahlia and esther made it there for example but i dont like that because first off maybe whomever monitors heaven saw esther and dahlia who both tried to kill the vampire race as redeemable, maybe that earned them a free pass, secondly it would be a bit pointless in watching dont you think if you knew every villian outside of kai was going to make it to heaven eventually, its a good thing but its pointless in a way.

While I still think you cannot fully destroy a soul or whatever, im one of those people who think energy just changes, never dies, but anyways I do agree death needs to be made more permanent as close as they can get. I dont feel they need to explore into yet another dimension that souls can be pulled out of. What I would like to see is individual pocket dimensions that you put a bad soul in and lock it permanently and keep it locked forever, therefore it makes an effect, the universe is vast and endless, there is plenty of room to create dimensions for every bad character, I actually wish all the fantasy stories did this, not just vampire diaries shows. I think heaven afterlife needs to remain unlocked though cause its not truly heaven to a certain extent if the souls of heaven cannot go and visit earth and see their loved ones but for the bad ones, they need to stay at least locked away for good and then throw away the key afterwards. What do you all think of this, do you agree or disagree, if you disagree, tell me why once again in a polite way. Cause my logic is while characters souls cannot truly die, there needs to be something at stake for the non ship people like me and if they can keep getting pulled out of dimensions, death means nothing.