Hayley Marshall-Kenner

My own little headcanon theory is that she definitely was sirebonded to Hope but—the definition of it would break it since it’s her child—she was devoted to her child—she would do anything for her child—so when should discipline her, it would be her acting as her mother and not a defiant sire.

Hayley was also mentioned yet it’s only stated that “Klaus,Elijah, and Vincent” was. Why isn’t Hayley name there as well?

Now that mostly everyone at the Salvatore school failed to bring Hope’s humanity back and Rebekah I think Hayley is her only hope and I say that because of her actions in 4x08 towards the wolves. She didn’t want to kill them because she knew Hayley wouldn’t want that, not only that she saw her mother in herself within that moment. The look in her eyes said it all, Hope tries so hard to hide it but even in her darkest state she still somehow manages to care just a bit. So yes, that’s my theory. Hayley might be the key to getting her humanity back! Anyone else agree or have a different theory?

In One Day You Will Understand, Alaric said that Hope couldn't have kids if she became a tribrid. However, Klaus was a hybrid as well and he was able to procreate with Hayley. Was this some sort of continuity error or will being a tribrid be different from being a hybrid?

In 2x03, Esther had told Hayley her condolences about Hope, meaning she was still unaware Hope was actually alive and residing with Rebekah at the time (she did not found out until 2x08). However, in 1x22, Genevieve stated that the ancestors were “coming for her” because she failed to sacrifice Hope. If the Ancestors were aware Hope was still alive, then why did Esther, their leader at the time, not know as well? That doesn’t add up.

What are your thoughts on this episode? Personally I wasn’t a fan, I thought the therapy box storyline was a bit of and bored me. Also I thought that if Hope was to wish for someone back it would be her mother, father or uncle not Landon. I really think that Lizzie and MG should get together like they keep baiting us with it and it hasn’t happened yet and it’s so past due. Not a fan of Finch atm and doesn’t look like someone Josie would be into yk? not hiding on her appearance but she look a bit ‘not Josies type’. Anyways what were your thoughts and/or predictions for the upcoming episode?

Am I the only person who thinks this script for the last episode is a huge scoop? Like, Hope lost three of the most important people in her life: Hayley, Elijah and Klaus. If she had an object capable of fulfilling her wish, do you really think she would bring a man she met yesterday instead of her father, for example, who has spent most of her life basically without seeing her? I think it was more to increase her pain or give the ship a purpose, as it really doesn't make sense.

People like to trash on Hayley, but she really got the worst end of the deal every single time. Don’t get me wrong Klaus often did too, but only after doing something stupid that ensured it to be that way. Klaus has no one to blame but himself for all the misery that came his way. He woke up most mornings, dang near all of them, and chose violence. Hurt and ruined so many families. Yes we love them, the original siblings, because they are the main characters, and he has tried to redeem himself a couple of times. But he is still a serial killer. He’s still a bad “person”. Who eventually did right. What did Haley do wrong? She slept with the wrong guy in a bad choice hook up, got pregnant, and only ever tried to protect her baby. She never tried to be queen of anything, she became queen of the wolves to protect hope, she was never power hungry, she never sacrificed her family for power, she just wanted to love hope and keep her safe. And she died doing that very thing. Elijah swore he’d protect hope to his dying breath and instead let her mother be killed protecting some kid he never even met. And would’ve let Hope die too. Hayley would have given up everything to do the one thing she was trying to do from the very start, protect hope. She wanted to leave New Orleans at every chance possible but no Klaus had to stay and make the city his and have power, be a king. This is the exact reason that no matter how this show would’ve played out, him and marcel would’ve always been miserable. They can’t let it go. If Klaus had listened to Hayley even once, they would all still be a family. And Hope would have her mom.

So as we know klaus and Hayley has to send hope away for 6 months. Does it not annoy any of you that Hayley was like distraught over 6 MONTHS and when you think about Hayley was there for hope for a good 15 years before she died and klaus missed 12 YEARS of hopes life and yes he went a little crazy and he was sad but does it not annoy you that Hayley was distraught over a short 6 months and yet klaus missed 12 years. This annoys me like crazy cause to me Hayley has no right to be so distraught over 6 months when she was there she got to see hope grow up, and klaus wasn’t there he didn’t get to see his daughter grow up.

Tell me what you think in the comments.

How did hope get this picture? I mean they burned it and yet in legacies we see hope stare longingly at the photos of her family and this picture is there but they only took one and they burned it so how did she get it? Theories please.

Do only Labonairs have the crescent birthmark or is it the entire Crescent Wolf Pack. Eve had the birthmark but it was never said she was a Labonair and we only ever see Hayley or Hope with the birthmark.

If you think about it Hayley is irrelevant to hopes power whether Hayley is the mother or some random human is Hope's mother, hope would still be as powerful as she is given that Klaus is all three maybe only benefit is that Hayley is werewolf royalty but then again wasn't Klaus' father like king of the wolves when Klaus was born. I know this doesn't really matter but it sure is interesting to think about.

So when they took away her werewolf side in season 5 seconds before she died let’s just say she lived right? her werewolf side would be gone forever or could she get it back? i’m just curious.

I've been thinking about this a lot and now that I rewatched the episode and saw this scene again, I have to talk about it. At Freya and Keelin's wedding, Elijah have a flashback, and we can learn what Hayley wanted to tell him. She thanked Elijah for her wonderful time in France and that it helped her to forgive her ex ( so old Elijah ) for all the pain that he caused her...

WHAT ? In which world Elijah did make Hayley suffer ? She is the one who married an other man knowing that Elijah was madly, deeply in love with her. After Jackson's death, she tell Elijah that she can't be with him by respect for Jackson. Finally she accept Elijah but they never really get the chance of enjoying the relationship to the fullest because of Marcel bitting the Mikaelson and the Hollow mess soon after. She blamed Elijah for a lot a things when this poor guys only wanted to do what he live for, protect thoses he loves. Ok, some things were really messed up, like killing thoses girls for the harvest or him saying that if they didn't find a loophole he would have killed one of the childs, but hey, she did a lot of bad things too. And finally, she rejected Elijah because he attacked her when he wasn't himself because his soul was LITTERALY broken.

If we really have to choose who is bad and who made the other suffer in this relationship, I'd say easily Hayley. Elijah never did anything bad to her ( not willingly ), he did and accepted everything for her good even if it was painful to him.

But I don't know why, the writters always have to make Hayley the perfect mary sue, tortured one...