Just curious on everyone’s thoughts
I was seeing people insulting Josette because she was more powerful than Hope, but we must not forget that the one in the last two seasons of the originals was not Hope. yes, it is absurdly powerful, but it is being explored in legacies. she is creating her legacy, as the legacy in the originals was not hers. we have to stop diminishing one character to make the other a god, because this is very childish and stupid. Josette also had dark magic, in which the necromancer himself lowered his head to her. Hope, like Josie, said they were not really fighting. if they had fought for real, the school would go into chaos and everyone would die until nothing is left. the fight would be as if Dahlia and Inadu were fighting each other and would end the entire city if they unleashed all their power.
then, reaffirming this here for those who did not understand;
1. you don't need to decrease one to like the other.
2. Season 4 / Season 5 magic was NOT Hope's magic, it was Inadu's.
3. Hope is being developed, it doesn't make her weak.
4. you need to separate character from actors.
5. stop sending hate for free.
not exactly in that order, but you got it.
Okay I’m here in quarantine overthinking everything... but am I the only one who just now realises that Hope has this hero complex because of her father.
Klaus (as much as I love him) was not a good guy. And it’s important not to downplay the countless lives he took and ruined. But when he had Hope, he wanted to change. He wanted to be a father worthy of her but it’s hard to go against centuries of bad habits. And just when he had a reason to change, when he had the motivation to change, he died. He was robbed of a chance to change his narrative.
And so Hope, who loves her father is doing it for him. Even if she doesn’t know it. She has this need to save the day, this uncontrollable feeling to save people even if it means her own unhappiness.
One of Klaus’s fears was becoming like Mikael. Mikael started a cycle of violence that broke Klaus and his ability to form and maintain healthy relationships. Which is why he was prone to lashing out, had trust issues and believed love was weakness. Klaus didn’t want to be Mikael because he didn’t want Hope to live like he did. Always scheming, killing one enemy only to create two more and never being able to trust. I can imagine that life gets pretty lonely.
Klaus named her Hope not only as a promise to his family but as promise to himself. A promise that he will do whatever it takes to be a man worthy of being her father. He promised he’d change the narrative for his little girl. And he did. Hope and her heroism is the result. Hope will be the hero, her father couldn’t be. The hero she knew he was.
Im not saying we will get cameos tonight but something tells me josie and hopes minds will be playing tricks on each other and make them look like loved ones or enemies to get them to do whatever. I personally hope that doesnt happen cause that is a waste of a cameo cause we know it isnt really happening, even these disney effects they are using is useless too but i respect what they are going for here, its not just another monster set up to die and its not stupid film noir. That being said, id rather cameos in the actual world, not in a dream world. Cause I have seen that trope before and it gets tiring.
I still don’t understand why they don’t kill just Elijah. I know that Klaus wanted an honorable death but Hope needs her father. Elijah seems have no purpose to live anymore but Klaus still need to be Hope’s father.
I know that Klaus had to make sacrifices for his child but how Klaus dying justify missing out on his daughter growing up? He just got back to her smh. Before Klaus died, he literally missed 13 years and 6 months of Hope’s life.
The last season sucks for me. S5 seems to put together in a haste and was a disappointment for me. This season did not do justice for this masterpiece. The storyline was kinda messy and in rush. I’m sorry but I had high expectations of a perfect ending towards this beautiful show.
Well, now I’m on the 8th episode.. but I am so bothered by the 5 years of Klaus and Hope not talking to each other.. for five years!! why? Why does klaus even bother to think that he is not worthy of Hope? Why doesn’t even he apologises yet? This is so wrong in so many levels ergh.. What are your opinions on this? Or I’m just being too harsh on Klaus 🤷🏻♀️
Look, I know Julie Plec said we wouldn’t be getting our fantasy Hosie true love kiss to wake Josie up in this scene, but if not hope, then I really want it to be one of three people:
1) Jade-I know they kinda just met, but they have a ton of chemistry and a lot of potential as a couple and they’re canonically into each other.
2) Penelope-I know we haven’t seen her in awhile and that we may never see her again (I hope I’m wrong about that) but I really do love them together.
3) Lizzie-I know what you’re thinking and no I’m not talking about incest. It can just be a kiss on her forehead. Dark Josie may have revealed some things that real jo was pushing down, but it doesn’t change the fact that despite everything, these two will always love and be there for each other as sisters. And having Lizzie be her “true love” would really push that point home.
Obviously in the fight they weren't trying as it was said. But who would win full on fight?
Josie vs Hope
In legacies hope is shown as weak compared to the originals.
All the rituals seen on TVD and TO have been repeated for centuries during the harvest and the merger, do you think that perhaps this magical fraction ritual can be performed with Hope by the remaining witches of the Hollow tribe who did not become Werewolves? why do I imagine that perhaps it is this type of situation that could cause Hope's death and prevent her from losing her magical powers? I imagine that instead of small fractions, the witches saw that Hope is a kind of freak worse than Hollow, so that they would give all their magic power by killing Hope in a magical overdose, she would receive so much power that she would end up dying and losing all this magic given to her through the ritua, and would prevent her from losing her own magic, there would be so much "donated" magic that Hope would preserve her natural magic that has existed since her birth and she will become a complete Tribrid.
I wonder why, somehow, werewolves cursed by The Hollow didn't come after Hope? because she is the only witch who can undo her curse, she is the only witch born in Hollow’s mother's bloodline with the same blood who can undo the spell and, seeing all previous TVD stations, the other side was sensitive during the season 5, why didn't they escape and stay hidden for a while? I think they can now go after Hope and force her to undo Inadu's spell, because if they lost their witch magic, they will become psychic, as naturally happens to very powerful witches when they lose their magic power, I think maybe that can happen now that Hope is already older.
This latest episode for Legacies has really made me lose hope for the series(ignore the pun lol), for a couple of reasons:
The first being that the writer came up with a bs excuse to as why the twins could merge earlier than 22, which in my opinion is bogus bc if you don’t have to specifically merge at 22 and have it just be the deadline why didn’t Joshua Parker do that for Liv and Luke then? Especially since he knew Kai's revenge on the coven was inevitable especially after he got out.
Secondly how is that Hope found a solution for The Merge when it took Caroline and Ric almost two decades to solve, also them solving it so soon defeats the purpose of why Caroline is gone in the first place. I wonder wat excuse their gonna use now that the twins have “Merged” and she still isn’t around, even though I’m pretty sure Candice is never setting foot on that set again lol.
Lastly, not to mention how Josie seemed so sure of herself in her knowledge of the merge, how did she not notice that she should be a little bit stronger and have a personality change now due to “merging with her twin” like Kai did after he won. I’m also still trying to figure out how Lizzie’s mind didn’t get absorbed into Josies since she did die, and how no one noticed MG help Hope get into Josies mind even tho all of Dark Josies allies were standing right behind her while she was incapacitated. So now my thing is if this show even makes it to however many seasons until the girls are 22, are the writers gonna make them merge again or is it completely nullified??
Why can’t Lizzie just siphon all of the dark magic out of Josie and put it into something/someone else the way they did with Hope and the hollow and putting it into Klaus in the originals?