Josie Saltzman

So as most people know hellfire is a psychic imprint of the moment of Cades Death. So his dimension is full of it. And as of his death no one else should be able to summon hellfire. But in episode 1x1 of Legacies while touring the school Josie said that Dorian incinerated himself with hellfire. But shouldn’t that have killed him? Especially if she used the word incinerated. Anyways do you think it was an exaggeration to get Rafael to apply to the school, or is hellfire truely still a thing in tvdu?

I have a small question about the Saltzman twins and Salvatore Boarding School:

In Legacies, Lizzie and Josie are seen siphoning walls and floors of the school, but how are they doing it? Was it ever explained how Salvatore Boarding House became magical? If yes, can anyone tell me the episode and season?

Thank you.

Fellow newbie to the TVD universe (suuuuper late i know, took me a while to finally give TVD a chance, and it didn’t disappoint) So i just finished Legacies, and i watched it for Lizzie and Josie. What i was looking forward to the most for them was the Merge. While yes Lizzie dying and turning into a hybrid solved it, I have a question, why did they need to merge if there was literally no one left alive in the Gemini Coven? As I recall, every member of the Gemini Coven died as a result of Kai killing himself while he was the Coven Leader. The Saltzman twins survive and are literally the only ones alive. Why must they merge if there is no coven for them to lead? Why is it their “duty” or “destiny” to do it? Couldn’t they just not recite the incantation for the merge and live long mortal lives with there own families? Couldn’t they just ignore it and think “there is no coven, why do i gotta risk killing myself or my twin if there is nothing to lead?”

After 6 years, 4 restarts, watching out of order I have finally finished everything today and it felt amazing. I had tried to watch the pilot for TVD but either I was preoccupied or it wasn’t catching my attention so I would give up on it then a few months later I would try again and the same thing would happen then during Legacies’ s1 midseason break I decided to catch up and I stuck with it to the end every week. During one of the summer hiatus between 1-2 or 2-3 I watched TO and weeped so the only one left was TVD and at this point I had watched up to where TO started and I had blacked out s3 and 4 and begrudgingly watched s5 then it ramped up in s6 with Bamon and Kai then the Heretics came and bored me prolonging my journey and the Sirens were good on paper but not execution and then they brought in the Devil and I was excited for him to be the end all be all but he was undercut by Katherine of all people. I love me some Katherine but it felt like they were happy to get Nina back so they cut the Kade stuff early just to use her one last time. Another option would’ve been to use Kelly Donovan as Katherine but they didn’t. So I have a few questions about what I’ve seen/heard from the fandom and my own; it may just be a case of me misremembering but let me know:

Why does every one hate Tyler Lockwood?

Why do people not like season 7-8?

Did they copy and paste Dorian’s backstory to Alyssa Chang?

So are Damon and Elena just walking around Mystic Falls ignoring everything that’s happening during Legacies?

Was Matt Donovan always this annoying/stern/“I hate everything related to the supernatural”?

Why didn’t Vicky fight off the compulsion to ring the bell?

Who was teaching baby Josie and baby Lizzie magic for them to even be using it at school?

How do you feel about Josie Saltzman being the last remaining siphoner/Gemini coven member alive?

Now that show is over, I feel I can reveal what never got to happen but I wanted to see happen-

Clarke becomes a vampire, i think they were building towards it which would have been better than what he is now.

Again mg and kalebs vamp backstories should have been explored, idk why the writers were so vague with kalebs having put it off 3 times too many cause now we wont know

The rest of gods gotten out could have been interesting but they would have had to play it out over the entire season not a short time like ken, not sure how they would have been this huge mega threat considering their most powerful leader got taken out.

Mg as a ripper and ethan trying to get revenge on josie for his arm breaking, they could have made a villainous duo

I think there was just a few magical abilities left I wanted to see as well

Origin of the merge

Anything you guys wanted to happen but didnt?

I wonder how can Josie access to her dark side if she doesn’t have dark magic on her system anymore? Or she doesn’t need to drain/absorb magic anymore when she goes dark? If is that so, why doesn’t she keep it up with her dark side so she wouldn’t have to drain/absorb magic? I’m confused right now.

NOTE: I asked that because when Josie faced Hope, she didn’t have to drain magic to snap Hope off neither had dark magic anymore since Lizzie pull it off.

Am I the only one who feels finch got better and likeable after Josie left.

I've been watching some episodes of Legacies and apparently fairies can also practice magic? or are they just direct energy attacks with magic? Dark Josie says in an episode that a fairy can't help with a dangerous spell only witches, can fairies cast spells or not? why they diagnosed Wade as a witch, although defective they still have similarities to witches.

I have technically two questions but one shouldn’t dark Josie have a different page from regular Josie considering they are kind of not the same. And my second question are we allowed to go in-depth in the power descriptions in other to list feats

Just out of curiousity I decide to take some guesses at what the last episode of legacies could look like going at the rate its going, I personally dont think it has much left in its tank, I could be wrong and it go on for years to come but here is a guess what could come in the final episode of legacies-

Hope and landon are going to be a full couple again, landon will help hopes humanity back on and help find a way for them to have a child.

Lizzie will get together with mg or ethan or both

The school will be either shut down or hope, lizzie, etc will be the new teachers for the younger generation.

Someone will get married, its such a common theme within finales anymore, I can see it happening here, I cant take a guess at who.

The final battle will be between the squad and the "gods"

A monster will make an appearance, maybe malivore and necromancer will appear

The triad will be officially closed down for good.

They will fit in penelope, jade, josie, rafael, freya and caroline as cameos.

I've been thinking here and what's the point of coming back with the merger plot? Josie is talking since last season of this story, back in the final eps of the third this uncomfortable subject came back, lastly Kaylee wanted to leave and I think they already had an idea, what's the point of it? Now that Lizzie has turned into a hybrid the Gemini Coven and any chance of them coming back has been wiped out, unless Josie has kids, or they discover another pair of twins, some usurers and here said season 5 could exploit that but this story is dead...Even if they invent other miracle babies inside another vampire or even some offspring of Kai Parker or another witch family related to the Gemini with their magic in their blood, or any other crazy story, it doesn't make sense anymore, what's the point of it ? do they really intend to renewed this story in season 5? or is it just speculation?

Just saw Kaylee’s post on IG. People were saying that she is not going to be a series regular / that she was leaving the show (I don’t know the details)

If she is moving on to other projects, I’m happy for her and want her to have a good career. Nonetheless, I’m still sad to hear that she is leaving. I haven’t seen the two latest episodes so I don’t know how she leaves, but I hope she is able to come back everyone and then.

What do you think? What’s your reaction?

So overall I liked the episode but I do have a few minor complaints. Like the other 2 triad members should’ve put up more of a fight and the fact that Hope just became an Alpha randomly is so weird. On another note, I’m super happy Aurora is back! I loved her in TO and I can’t wait to se more of her. (Rebecca is now a recurring character). The body switch twist was epic and completely unexpected. I can totally see Josie being a doctor/surgeon in the future I think it suits her. I also think that if Lizzie goes after Hope she’ll die, I normally LOVE Lizzie but she’s been really annoying these past couple episodes, I do hope that she turns though, that would be awesome

In the newest episode, Josie tried to put Hope to sleep with a spell, but Hope faked it then used her vamp speed to eventually snap her neck. So does that mean Tribrids have a resistance to magic? It wouldn’t be impossible since there’s been plenty of times where magic was just shrugged off.

I’m thinking. Now that’s we have tribrid Hope and we seeing little peaks of Dark Josie (both this and last season) maybe Josie will release her dark side again by accident by doing dark magic or something and then her and hope fight or something. I’m just thinking since they said this season will be darker.