Legacies

So as most people know hellfire is a psychic imprint of the moment of Cades Death. So his dimension is full of it. And as of his death no one else should be able to summon hellfire. But in episode 1x1 of Legacies while touring the school Josie said that Dorian incinerated himself with hellfire. But shouldn’t that have killed him? Especially if she used the word incinerated. Anyways do you think it was an exaggeration to get Rafael to apply to the school, or is hellfire truely still a thing in tvdu?

So with the possibility of the series returning, I thought I could go through a few villains from the book series that could work for the series:

1) the Kitsune twins: these two are the main antagonists from the return book series, and whilst Kitsune Villains have been done before, see Teen Wolf, these two are actually pretty scary when it comes to raw power and what their plan was as in the books they infect all the children in town with a parasite called a ‘Malach’ in an attempt to have them kill all the adults. With a few re-works they could be very dangerous villains and the Malach might be a good way to explain why Josie turned evil, as in the book’s Caroline was patient zero for the Malach outbreak.

2) the jealousy Phantom: this Villain appears in the first book of the Hunter trilogy, aptly titled Phantom’s. She is one of the Original Phantom and as her title suggests she feeds off the jealousy of her victims making them get uncontrollably jealous at other people to the point of attacking others. This would be a good way to give more emotional development to the characters more specifically to Hope, as in my opinion she didn’t have that much development throughout her arc and this villain would be a good way to give her some development.

And 3) The Vitale society: these group is a secret society that occupies the Delcrest college, and is the Primary antagonists of the Second book in of the Hunter trilogy and a minor antagonist in the last book in the trilogy. There main goals throughout these books is to resurrect Klaus from the dead. This one is more of a gateway Villain than anything else, as it would lead to the potential return of Klaus from being dead and it would be fun to see a memory less Klaus fighting Hope, Hybrid vs Tribrid and all.

After 6 years, 4 restarts, watching out of order I have finally finished everything today and it felt amazing. I had tried to watch the pilot for TVD but either I was preoccupied or it wasn’t catching my attention so I would give up on it then a few months later I would try again and the same thing would happen then during Legacies’ s1 midseason break I decided to catch up and I stuck with it to the end every week. During one of the summer hiatus between 1-2 or 2-3 I watched TO and weeped so the only one left was TVD and at this point I had watched up to where TO started and I had blacked out s3 and 4 and begrudgingly watched s5 then it ramped up in s6 with Bamon and Kai then the Heretics came and bored me prolonging my journey and the Sirens were good on paper but not execution and then they brought in the Devil and I was excited for him to be the end all be all but he was undercut by Katherine of all people. I love me some Katherine but it felt like they were happy to get Nina back so they cut the Kade stuff early just to use her one last time. Another option would’ve been to use Kelly Donovan as Katherine but they didn’t. So I have a few questions about what I’ve seen/heard from the fandom and my own; it may just be a case of me misremembering but let me know:

Why does every one hate Tyler Lockwood?

Why do people not like season 7-8?

Did they copy and paste Dorian’s backstory to Alyssa Chang?

So are Damon and Elena just walking around Mystic Falls ignoring everything that’s happening during Legacies?

Was Matt Donovan always this annoying/stern/“I hate everything related to the supernatural”?

Why didn’t Vicky fight off the compulsion to ring the bell?

Who was teaching baby Josie and baby Lizzie magic for them to even be using it at school?

at any point was it mentioned that gods can create other dimensions? witches can Qetsyah and the Ancestors created new dimensions, and only two psychics were able Bonnie and Arcadius, I think maybe this may be the limit for the gods that nature has imposed after, gods like Ken seem to have no limits in terms of power, at least Ken?, he apparently can kill very easily knowing a lot of other mortal/supernatural lives (Aurora and Tristan? I think at this point I think maybe he could see Aurora memories). I had the slight impression that maybe psychics could be maybe a new breach of the nature for the gods? I imagine psychics can trap gods in dimension after death?.

I have a few ideas on how to make legacies and any other tvd related project succeed if they return, some of it Ive said a dozen times, some might not be

In no order of importance-

First off as stated many times there needs to be a danger to the protagonists that somewhat lacked on legacies, I think we need to move beyond how many protagonists that can be killed off, I think its been established as bad as that is, to make a true villain they should do a worse fate than death, I dont think that would happen however.

Stay away from the complicated mythology, luckily it wasnt too bad with the gods stuff although a few times I think I was like huh, I mean even the fury stuff was confusing. But even a fantasy nerd as myself cannot stand this overcomplicated mythology. I almost wanna say throw away all the rules at this point cause there isnt 100% consistency. Im not saying you have to make this franchise flat out stupid but lets remember this is still entertaining art first not homework.

Do not bring back monster of the week, it was a failed experiment, I guess they could still incorporate monsters but they were never handled greatly, I mean idk, I think maybe they should just bring in shapeshifters as the only new species left and call it a day.

Answer any remaining questions that are too vague and flat out need visual explanation. Some can be answered via clues but some you have no choice but to show. And tbh Im not a fan of fans(no pun intended) having to fill in the blanks for the writers, it kills the reason we go to see tv shows so someone else can do the great writing for us and we tune into see it.

As usual try to dial back on plot errors or just even common sense errors, like I'm a bit more lenient on errors in the magic stuff cause its hard to put realistic rules on a subject like magic, its hard to get mad at inconsistency. But some stuff like cleo having the power to inspire ideas in people is not good of an idea due to common sense, stuff like that.

Sort of going back to the answer questions bit, they need to take full advantage to dive deeper into villains motivations and personas. They simply didnt do a good job at explaining the motivations of malivore, ken and necromancer as to past villains, there was still vagueness within them. That bothered me alot.

No more filler, that is an extension of no more monster of week but like no more therapy box/hallucination episodes

I still think the human characters at best need to be guest stars simply for the fact this is a show/franchise about the supernatural not the natural. Its also established in tvdverse the supers are in the minority compared to humans.

I am not gonna say we need more cameos cause unless its to do with the story then I dont think they are needed.

Imo these are the main issues to cover in order for legacies and potential spin offs to succeed so they dont mess up again.

how are dragons a threat,? they are apparently fire-breathing giant lizard shapeshifters, that's all, and have a certain invulnerability to weapons other than taking a sword through the throat , witches can knock them down with spells, and vampires and wolves can regenerate from the flames apparently, just air attacks It would be dangerous.

what did you think of the end of Aurora? if Julie doesn't spoil her ending, and she ends up getting back together with Ken?

Why doesn’t Legacies have a transcript on here like the other shows??!!

I refuse to believe that Legacies is the last show in this universe, they always have a backup plan just in case their shows are in danger of cancellation. I think it’s another spinoff in the making, maybe it’s about the Gods, maybe it’s about the Mikaelson’s again, or could be about Hope’s life outside of the Salvatore school. I’m just hoping their is something after this, honestly they could give Rebekah and Freya their own show and have Hope,Lizzie and Caroline in it along with Valerie, we could see Rebekah and Freya’s enemies just like we saw Klaus and Elijah’s. That’s if the actors are willing to do that

(which i doubt they are) but it still wouldn’t hurt to ask right? worst they can say is no.

If chronos shows up in future episodes and can indeed send people back in time what events do you want to see undone if there are any, throughout the entire tvd franchise, all 17 seasons and why you want them undone?

On a sidenote as always you can list events involving klaus, damon, katherine, a few others but just keep in mind the unrealism of them showing up.

Wade isn't a witch, a werewolf, or a vampire, so why didn't he attack Ben like Kaleb and Ethan? I thought a "monster" was considered to be a person from any species other than the main three and Wade is a fairy. Any ideas?

If gods/goddesses and demigods are immune to magic and the laws that govern it, shouldn’t they be immune to the rules that created immortals? Like wouldn’t a god/demigod be able to kill an original without needing the white oak stake as an example? Or maybe a tribrid without the red oak stake? I mean they predate the rules of nature and magic so in theory they should be able to kill anyone without needing a specific item and abiding by the rules.

The sphinx was clairvoyant a "seer", so as there are witches who have certain psychic abilities (Bonnie and apparently Dahlia when she dominated other people's minds and actions with "kening"). Is it possible that scrying could be of a unique species? I know there has never been a clairvoyant in TVD, (exclusively clairvoyant ok? without magical or psychic powers)...I mean non-witch seers? because the sphinx was a seer, i thought this was a power unique to witches.