Lucien Castle

Im going to get alot of hate for this maybe but I gave it a 2nd thought I think malivore should have remained the main villain of legacies through the whole way. There was a point where I did want a villain season by season and I was sick of malivore but Im at a point where Id rather take a single stretched out villain who gets full character progression than these quicker newer ones cause take in instance who we are having as final villain which is ken which yeah he has cool powers and menacing but he has a dull persona and by tomorrow he will be in the show for what his fifth time? and probably get killed tomorrow, that isnt enough time to develop a big villain. And to me the whole end of the world plot is so overdone and not realistic in a sense cause lets say he did do that, he'd have an empty planet to rule over and whether aurora be at his side or not, I feel he would go insane due to boredom from lack of people, it be one thing if he hates himself and everyone who lives and breathes and he wants to take down everyone with him but that isnt the case here, he wants to rule over nothing. At least malivore wanted to target specific groups, we never got fully explanation of why but at least it wasnt ending everyone.

And yeah there is aurora who is a stretched out villain but it just seems to be repetitive where she falls for these men who arent meant for her but her vampire side is barely explored not to mention the one man who was not toxic to her she wanted no part of aka lucien.

I think what happened why malivore got taken away, okay Im speculating Im not saying this is concrete proof but I think fan backlash over the malivore character drove plans away cause he was originally meant to be a threat over entire series to seperate himself from typical tvd villains. I think had he stayed in landon in 3x04, none of this seperation thing it would have came off better cause he finally have a voice and believable form other than playdoh statue, had him stop bringing out monsters, use physical and mental attacks on hope and the students, all these methods tried to use to kill him and it dont work, he eventually becomes full on phoenix he fights tribrid hope in the finale and hope of course kills him but it feels more earned I suppose is the word. Idk if any of you agree with me or not. Cause I dont care what anyone says even if you hate the malivore character, just the concept of his dimension is terrifying, being alone in darkness forever, that is much more terrifying than killing a character who ends up going to peace anyway.

sharing the same abilities as an original vampire he could compel anyone(except for another original by himself), cant be killed by a wooden stake, and can’t die from wolf venom. The spell used was the same one Esther used on her kids(but tweaked of course). So if the basis is the same but just better does that mean he can create a sire line of his own? Same goes for Lucien and Alaric-especially for Alaric since he went from human-enhanced original not vampire-upgraded original and yes I know Alaric wouldn’t have but the question is could he have

Marcel still being alive means that he can possibly turn people when he feels he needs to and be their sire

Does anyone else think gunters arrival could have importance of bringing in vampire families since they clearly didnt plan to have his words get alaric out but to bring in more vampire families to live up to the title of legacies? This has been an issue for many years now ive noticed in vampire stories and im not at all picking on tvd franchise, this pertains to most ive seen but i ask myself how are there so many vampires yet kept in secret from the world in that they still think they are myths, imo it all relates back to vampire families, not just the mikaelsons but id like to think the first vampires turned by lucien, aurora and tristan and its been a path of that ever since. Yes tristan helped make aya and the strix, aurora had two vampires followed to her, lucien had some with him but id like to think it isnt just all random people turned over the years and it started somewhere and became a family heritage of sorts

this show whether julie and brett realize of their own show has family at the root not romance, and it be a shameful wasted opportunity to have the only vamp families be salvatores, mikaelsons and de martels, maybe the heretics can be counted but that is all i can think off the top of my head.

The question is simple, what is your favorite name for our favorite Hybrid ? If you were to live in the TVD univers and be close to him, how would you call him ?

1. Niklaus

2. Klaus

3. Nik

I personnally think that I would go for Nik. I don't know, I really like it. It's kinda sound sweet and It's mostly people really close to him who use that one ( his baby siblings, lovers ( Aurora and Genevieve ) or his best friends ( Lucien and Stefan )

How about you ?

As we all know Marcel is the last Upgraded Original Vampire and Lucien was the first. They were both vampires at first but would the thing that turned them into Upgraded Original Vampires work on humans?

Hello everyone!

In season 3 of The Originals the Mikaelsons were desperate to kill the Upgraded Original Vampire Lucien Castle. To finally kill him they used Davina's Ancestral Spirit to gain access to the magic that created him and after reversing the Immortality Spell they killed him.

But in season 5 of The Originals it was revealed that Klaus had secretly kept one, last stake.

Why didn't he tell his family about that? It could have prevented a lot of trouble, Lucien wasn't immune to the White Oak magic.

So we know that the Upgraded Original’s vote possess venom from the 7 original werewolf bloodlines, correct? How does it succeed in killing one of the Originals, especially Klaus? In my opinion, I don’t think it’s been explained properly as the only thing we know is that it’s a combination of all seven strains of werewolf venom that ends up killing them, but that doesn’t make much sense because it’s possible for some point in the thousands of years the Originals have been alive, to have been encountered and fought werewolves from more than one bloodlines and been bitten by more than one. They should all be fully capable of fighting off multiple strains of werewolf venom at once as they have possible been bitten by most werewolves from the bloodlines the seven strains of werewolf venom came from right? I understand that it’s a new strain of werewolf venom, but that still doesn’t make any sense because none of the original strains can kill the Originals. Perhaps it’s like a plot device to accentuate the Beast’s power over the Originals and Klaus himself and how Lucien and Marcel can kill them, but they totally could of went with something different such as a new strain of venom that isn’t from a werewolf and was created from dark magic that has similar power levels of the White Oak Stake, which would of made way more sense correct?

Please tell me what you think about this. Appreciated!

Can Marcel or Lucien die from the Advanced Werewolf Venom that’s in their fangs? We know that not even their own blood can cure the newly-created Venom, so are they also able to be killed by it or are they immune to it?

Can the White Oak Stake kill Lucien and Marcel? Can the White Oak Ash Daggers neutralize them?

If klaus had a last remaining of white oak to kill himself in finale why didn’t he used it on lucien after he become upgraded original