Milton Greasley

Now that show is over, I feel I can reveal what never got to happen but I wanted to see happen-

Clarke becomes a vampire, i think they were building towards it which would have been better than what he is now.

Again mg and kalebs vamp backstories should have been explored, idk why the writers were so vague with kalebs having put it off 3 times too many cause now we wont know

The rest of gods gotten out could have been interesting but they would have had to play it out over the entire season not a short time like ken, not sure how they would have been this huge mega threat considering their most powerful leader got taken out.

Mg as a ripper and ethan trying to get revenge on josie for his arm breaking, they could have made a villainous duo

I think there was just a few magical abilities left I wanted to see as well

Origin of the merge

Anything you guys wanted to happen but didnt?

I believe it was stated in the recent episode that there is a probability at least 2 of the protagonists will die in the battle against the gods so I have to ask who you all think will be the ones to die or whom you want to die not out of hatred but just you think its time to retire 2 faces and want to give some villains credibility on the level of klaus or kai where its been mostly lacked in legacies.

I will say that they can kill off alaric again but Im at the point I just dont think he will die, he hasnt stayed dead this far, I dont see it again. Hope they will only kill off if they intend on ending the series cause I cannot see a 5th season without hope, I just cant. I can kind of see ben dying, risking his immortality to save jed and the others.

Also to keep in mind as long as limbo and the necromancer are around its not out of question whomever dies just goes to limbo for a short while only to pop back up on earth.

If there is a season 5 I really hope they just dial back down to smaller stories rather than how can we keep topping past season with bigger and more powerful enemies who want to end the world cause that is getting boring and predictable(in a bad way). Cause with the introduction of gods, like how can you possibly top that? Plot armor interference already dictates they can only be limited powerful not to mention there are gods from every culture on the planet, are the writers going to do gods of the week?, I really hope not, that would take many many seasons to cover, its been established this current season is the 17th season of this franchise, we're almost out of magical abilities to showcase so its just going to be repeating itself. Even if they bring in nature as a living being they can only go so far with it.

There is nothing wrong with smaller more character driven stories rather than gathering up a bunch of them to stop some global threat, its been established there is potential for a few like a ripper mg and ripper lizzie storyline. I think fans will get more enjoyment in general out of that anyway. Basically you can get a bigger impact from something smaller as compared to something bigger that can only give a small impact if you catch my drift.

Any theories guys about this week's upcoming episode? Will Hope kill Vardemus? Did MG and Ethan fight? What's the deal with this Ben character?

Are there any characters you guys still would like to get into a tussle?

For me a few of them would be-

Hope vs hybrid lizzie

Hope vs aurora

They might be setting up for sphinx vs ferryman which heck yes bring that on

I want to see ethan in another fight possibly against mg cause I think it will be revealed ethan has a hidden supernatural ability that dont come out unless times of danger like landon with his fire wings

Id like to see caroline and kol return to fight some powerful enemy at some point

Cause vardemus is coming back Id like to see him in a fight too and not just talk

Just out of curiousity I decide to take some guesses at what the last episode of legacies could look like going at the rate its going, I personally dont think it has much left in its tank, I could be wrong and it go on for years to come but here is a guess what could come in the final episode of legacies-

Hope and landon are going to be a full couple again, landon will help hopes humanity back on and help find a way for them to have a child.

Lizzie will get together with mg or ethan or both

The school will be either shut down or hope, lizzie, etc will be the new teachers for the younger generation.

Someone will get married, its such a common theme within finales anymore, I can see it happening here, I cant take a guess at who.

The final battle will be between the squad and the "gods"

A monster will make an appearance, maybe malivore and necromancer will appear

The triad will be officially closed down for good.

They will fit in penelope, jade, josie, rafael, freya and caroline as cameos.

If by some chance the ripper angle ever comes back into the show how should it be dealt with once and for all, cause I dont seem to recall an exact cure created, so far its I guess self control but should supernatural ways be brought in to stop it.

Options are-

Through a person perhaps an original to compel away the rabid hunger

Through an object

Through a spell

The vampire in question should just try mind over matter and talk themselves out of it

The Theory time is here guys. I will start with Alaric and Landon Returning.

I think both of them will return next episode because Hope will be at the school and also Landon was seen into the trailer + Hope has some second thought about her humanity being off. Maybe Alaric tells Landon what is happening and Landon searches for a way back and recovers his powers. I think Alaric will be back as well but only for short time because at this moment his involvement in the story is ZERO. Also the only stories that really needs him will be The Merge or some Vampire Hunting( if the show wants to go back to basics but there are very little chances. Also the school has a very short number of students and he needs to recruit more. Also Alaric is one of the oldest characters in TVD as a main character.

For the villain side off story at the moment we have 100% confirmed Triad and The Merge(Gemini Coven Ghosts and other monsters that have the way to stop the merge) but we have some 50/50 as well:

• Clarke's girlfriend: at the end of the latest episode we see Clarke's girlfriend being surprisingly interested about the supernatural world and because this plot will involve Clarke maybe finally will have some closure for him as a character and also some interaction between him an Landon. I can see something like that happening

• Klaus has enemies: The Mikaelsons haven't always been the most good relatives. As the matter of fact only Freya was mentioned and shown in the most hard situation. She was the only one who was there for Hope. Rebekah was there but she wasn't the best aunt. In the season 2 Freya said that has a son(witch or werewolf, we don't know for sure) that wants to send to Salvatore school and if she decides to do so it will be a treat for the fans to see her for 3-4 episodes with her son and Hope in Mystic Falls and one of Klaus oldest enemies to show up( the most wanted will be Mikael because if Freya has a werewolf son that will make Michael very angry. Esther and Finn duo is also on the list and as TO showed they always find a way back and we know Esther has a grudge about vampires imagine what she will think about Hope The Original tribrid that has no weakness and I say that because we don't know that that stake that Cleo has will work because her power doesn't make it she always is right go see episode 2 of this season. And if Esther is involved her sidekick the zombie that always follows her commands Finn, Dahlia can also be invited. But that doesn't mean that a new villain that has a grudge on Klaus and his family will be bad, actually will be welcomed with open arms.)

• Nature: we know that the force of nature wants Hope dead so what about the entire force of nature being a invincible creature that goes after her. That will make for a hell of a fight.

It is unknown if we will see this villains below but like the most of the fans I want some villains to be in the show:

• Kaleb sire

• MG sire

• MG's mother being back as a villain

• Sirens

• And this is an idea of mine Hope being split into three(because she is a tribrid) every one of the having a different power and personality like one werewolf Hope is brave and honest, witch Hope shy and like Josie in season 1 and vampire(original) Hope a mini-Klaus in season 2 or three of TVD. And vampire Hope creates chaos and makes MG(because is a reaper) to switch his humanity off and the Squad and the two good Hope try to stop them. And if Vampire Hope dies so the rest of her versions. And also this will make the perfect moment to kill Mg off in way because and offer him a story i don't even see his role in the show at this moment besides comic relief and a love triangle between Lizzie,him and Ethan(honestly i prefer Ethan and Lizzie).

Also i have a theory about how the should end: Hope and Landon being immortal beings running the school. Josie being a hybrid (vampire-witch) and Finch a hybrid created by Hope to save her life recruiting more students. Alaric and Klaus both reach Peace together, Lizzie and Ethan being married with a full life ahead, Cleo and Kaleb hunting evil vampires, Jed being a real alpha and MG dead(i hate MG with all my heart because his role in the story and the fact that he is really the blame for what happened with Landon and Hope: if he give the ascendant to Hope she will saved Landon before Malivore got him and none of this will happening right now. And the fact that he single made the decision to keep the ascendant secret and not to save Landon even if he was the one in problems Landon will be there for him with no seconds to think. Also making the decision to be in Hope's team even if he knows that means killing Landon and Cleo i mean I am honestly amazed by what this kid thinks about himself as being a hero even if he doesn't know the first thing about being a hero and not forget he killed Landon one time, honestly Hope put Landon above everyone else only few times and she is hated and MG the worst and selfish choices in the show, like telling Ethan that he loves Lizzie, why he gets with nearly Zero haters?) The finale season should happen after a flashfoward and everyone returning after being away from each other for 5-7 years or so to save the school.

What do you think about this theories ?

MG and Ethan are amazing as friends and I really do enjoy their friends. However, they have HELLA chemistry. I know a lot of it has to do with how well their actors interact but man, there's SO much potential there to turn this into a real romantic ship. They seem to have this connection where they genuinely get each other and I haven't seen them have that with any other character; Lizzie included. I just hope this gets explored in season 4 or at some point later down the line. It would also be so important to finally have another M/M couple in the TVD verse, especially one that doesn't end in tragedy(aka Josh & Aiden).

What do you guys think? Please no hate. I know they're not real thing but its just wishful thinking, just like with those who ship Hizzie.

For me, MG is a terrible character. He's boring, self-righteous and rude.

Some examples:

-he doesn't do anything and always whining

-when he blame Landon for his fathers believes

-when he said to Wade that "Just because I read comics books doesn't mean I have no dignity at all." He was jerk to him and he basically told him that he had no dignity but letter have a nerve behave as victim to Jed: "Jed, that's not my job to make you feel better about being a jerk." His behavior was as awfull as Jed and even worse because he hadn't had remorse and never apologize Wade.

-when Hope saved him when he was beaten by Rafael but he hide ascendent wich could save Landon (I understand his motives but if everyone know that ascendent wasn't destroyed they can create another solution.)

-He only help to by a hero not to doing something good, even Lizzie helps more selfless. She wanted to protect her little classmate Pedro and entire school even if she hurts in the process.

-when he go after something "popular": pretty witch Lizzie Saltzman or popular among vampire students Kaleb. He always have to be friends with people who are being consider special. (maybe this is exaggerated but I started thinking about it when he easy dumped Ethan and he started partnerships hero something with Kaleb, btw Kaleb was awsome but MG was again feeling to help only to feel "special" and hero.

Certain names got dropped or hinted to in this show that have villian potential within them as well as current faces and they are:

The person that cursed the gemini coven

The person who killed cleos sisters

Mg and kalebs sires

Malivores children

The person who has prevented malivore from getting out and who sent necromancer back(they might not be a helping hand to the salvatore school as we think)

Triad again(what would they bring differently to the table this time)

Dark josie and dark alaric (what would they bring differently)

And then certain students- lizzie, ripper mg and flip switched tribrid hope

Im not going to put people who are somewhat on neutral like aurora or a past villian like katherine and kai, those are dead horses I no longer wish to entertain the idea of a return and I see no way a monster besides malivore would be a side villian cause that is the point of motw to make these monsters have their 1 episode of fame and onto another and so forth, its going to be vampires, werewolves, witches and humans as the villians if I had to guess to work alongside malivore.

Does anyone still think the writers have a big plan for his character, an actual reason for making him a series regular cause now that his time with mg has come to an end, he is just there to be there, what they might be saving up for, playing devils advocate is that mg will die and ethans memories will flood back to him and lead to him finding out about josie breaking his arm and costing him the scholarship thing and eventually he might become a vampire himself. Thats playing it fair otherwise he's a waste of space to me and the money going to the actor could go somewhere better spent.

I was watching the episode "death keeps knocking on my door" and Dorian says something about MG having clinical adhd. is that true?

I was thinking, even though I knew it was impossible.

In the fourth season of Legacies, they could bring in a powerful villain like Dahlia or the ancestors. Yes, I know it is impossible because Dahlia is dead and has found peace (and she cannot resuscitate anyone who finds peace) and the Ancestors are now free. But let's pretend it was possible to bring them back.

The Ancestors would be an excellent villain because they had enough power to destroy more than one entire city, in addition, they were powerful enough to corrupt an original vampire and create the Beast without channeling any celestial event as Esther did or as Qetsiyah did.

Dahlia would be a good villain for being the firstborn and being extremely powerful, as well as being the only one capable of giving the training that Hope needs. It almost destroyed an entire city, which means that it will not be an easy element to fight.

Why would they be good villains?

Well, we could see the powers of Hope, Lizzie and Josie being fully explored, and it would explain the ancestral and ancestral magic of Dahlia and Esther's lineage. I think it would be a good one, especially that a large part of the fandom is complaining about this script and would bring something more "scary" and challenging - in addition, they could use Dahlia to explore the ripper side of MG.

in relation to the origins of some characters-who made kaleb and mg into vamps and why, what happened to wades parents, who created the gemini merge, how did ted become necromancer

in relation to the plots of the show-why necromancer had chad obtain the body of pothos(which btw assuming it stayed there, freaking hope and landon had sex in a room with a dead body...eww), what else the prevention of the merge(obviously they are holding off on that, i dont expect to learn on that this season, maybe next season), how some of the violent students can be helped with their issues

people might say the prophecy and sphinx new master is still a mystery, we got to assume the prophecy ended and sphinx new master is necromancer

Well I guess we can call it new prophecy even though the old one still isn't done but if the sphinx is telling the truth and wasn't just messing with the Necromancer and Alyssa, a lot of people will suffer, the Necromancer will succeed in the Malivore and creature plan and one at the school will die.

So my question is who you think will die?

Cause in terms of who I think could die-Hope(temporarily), Alaric, MG, Kaleb, jade, Wade, Wendy, Diego and Sebastian(if they return from malivore), Vardemus, Pedro, Dorian (only cause he is told to return), a new character, I think everyone else is safe because in terms of who I want to die is Landon, Alaric, Jed, I think that is it. And one more point is they would go to peace and it just be a setback of help at most, on an emotional level it would affect Hope and Josie if Landon and Alaric died and upset the wolves if Jed died.

Again I dont see people talk about this much but what are your solutions on how to help these three cause to me they are the only students at the school with problems, maybe jade and wendy added but idk what their futures are so ill go with the ones who will stick around.

Mgs problem is his bloodlust but clearly what they are doing isnt helping and honestly this is I guess a continued problem that started in tvd and never had payoff

but here are my options and 1 of them helps both sides:

mg can practice some mediation thing to use mind over matter and control around the blood

this one would help if I knew it would stick but simply ask rebekah, kol or marcel to compel him to not go crazy around the blood, only problem is rebekah and maybe kol and marcel is taking the cure so when they would lose the vampire side it would break the link to mg, maybe put another anchor in place

find a spell on how to help him which can also help josie and lizzie, find a spell from someone to take away the lust and on the twins side prevent the merge

lastly the easiest methods is for one or both twins to siphon off mg and make him human but that would defeat the purpose you know and do reverse i guess for the twins and make one or both into heretics

Getting away from the negativity I wanna share this moment to talk about what we are grateful for(a bit of a belated thanksgiving post) when the show returns, this isnt a wishlist post, but what characters and stories we are all excited for when it comes back.

For me:

stories-

necromancer bringing back malivore

the prophecy coming to conclusion

hope being in a position where she has to be rescued for once(im aware she needed rescuing as a baby/little girl but as a young lady she is presented almost unstoppable)

the merge coming to a conclusion

what necromancer has planned for pothos and sphinx

what will chad do now he isnt a minion

mg containing his ripper side once and for all

and for characters:

my favs are hope, landon, necromancer, malivore, chad, jade, mg, rafael, vardemus, those are all the living beings im looking forward to when the show comes back, i dont hate the rest, im just mixed feelings. Im not counting tvd alumni who are still around like damon and kol cause they arent on the show.