Rafael Waithe

So as most people know hellfire is a psychic imprint of the moment of Cades Death. So his dimension is full of it. And as of his death no one else should be able to summon hellfire. But in episode 1x1 of Legacies while touring the school Josie said that Dorian incinerated himself with hellfire. But shouldn’t that have killed him? Especially if she used the word incinerated. Anyways do you think it was an exaggeration to get Rafael to apply to the school, or is hellfire truely still a thing in tvdu?

Can someone remind me what was the prison world rafael got sent in bound to?, cause if it was at least part lizzie, couldnt his world have crashed when she died when hope killed her?

At the same time we havent seen him in limbo unless they use excuse he couldnt find landon at first. That is assuming he and his parents spirits went into limbo.

Does anyone have their own list of whom you would like to see resurrected along with alaric, ted and landon? Only conditions is these would have to be beings in limbo so anyone who is in peace is exempt, rafael is exempt cause he is in prison world. Malivore I guess is also exempt. Believe it or not tristan I think is exempt cause the serratura I think keeps him down in that containment spell forever so not even he can do a reunion with his sis.

Ok so in TVD Damon stabs Uncle Mason right in the heart with a knife and Mason pulls it out and laughs. Werewolves have supernatural healing abilities....

On Legacies this doesn't seem to be so for example, Chad (the acolyte) stabs Raf in the side and he dies pretty quickly. Weird.... or did I miss something?

Now that malivore is dead what exactly do you think they even have intended for him giving the writers benefit of doubt. I mean he is human and who knows where his residence was while he worked at triad who knows if he can go back to that. Tbh I struggle to think of what they can do with him. I do think the idea of him being a supernatural again needs to come into play im not a fan of him as human and ill take him being a vampire over what he is now like he referenced to. If they ever found a way to explain malivores other failures which are clarke and landons siblings and rafaels stepsiblings I suppose that could be interesting to create some mikaelson type dynamic, problem is they would have to bring something to the table interesting cause the way clarke talked about them made them seem anything but. It be interesting I guess if he has a storyline intertwined with cleo cause both are the oldest beings I think in mystic falls left and maybe she goes to him to find her sisters killer. Some people might say he comes back to help destroy triad, problem is they are already destroyed, they disbanded and left behind all their work so unless they become supernaturals I dont see the reason for them to come back and I'd hate if he joined them and turned on hope after all the progress he has made to become good. But anyone have other ideas?

Anyone else absolutely love this episode? I loved the little cameos from Raf and Freya, I though the party was a nice parallel to the final Mikaelson dinner. I also thing that we should change the name of the Prison World to Mirror Word, it’s sweet. Could we change that in the article maybe?

What would be the 5 biggest pros and cons of season 3 of legacies now that its over?

For me personally:

Pro 1-Malivore finally got out

Pro 2-clarke came back

Pro 3-3x04 was a good episode, the best imo

Pro 4-Cleo as a character was alright enough

Pro 5-The star wars parody was kind of good

Cheating here-another pro the action was decent considering working under a pandemic

Now onto the cons

Con 1-Still filled with too many useless characters

Con 2-The reasoning for cleo's character makes no sense

Con 3-The 80s horror simulation episode

Con 4-The musical and its not that they sang bad, well I didnt even really watch much of those, its just it felt so out of place here im sorry

Con 5-Lack of cameos of tvd alumni

Cheating here, four bonus reasons-never explained why necromancer last season had chad dig up pothos body cause I was under the assumption that was leading to something but became pointless cause alyssa said bring him and all the creatures back, and other con being they chickened out on the sphinx prophecy and never came to total conclusion. con 3 being they never take cleos backstory to show who killed her sisters and con 4 being not bringing in new faces who were teased but never shown like malivores failures

Im not going to list hope not being a tribrid or the merge not happening yet ill be fair and say those have a time and place of happening. And I know someone is going to put rafaels death as a con but not cause he died but cause some fans are convinced the king arthur thing was leading to some great storyline and I disagree, it was just some thing and ended at that, I still dont see what avenues it was going down that fans insist had potential of.

So I really enjoyed this episode! It is definitely in my top 5 maybe 10 of Legacies episodes. I love what they did with Rafael and closing his storyline and giving him a happy ending and still keeping openings for his return in the show. Honestly I think that Hope and Landon might break up 🤞there has been a bit of tension in this episode and they are feeling a little strained if you get what I mean. I’m also excited to see what Alyssa and The Necromancers plan turns out like and what ALL the Malivore monsters of our plane would look like. All in all I REALLY liked this episode and think they did a great job on it.

From the last episode of legacies, it seems like Handon isn't ending anytime soon unless Landon dies "again", Hope doesn't seem interested in Rafael and vise verse anymore, and I don't think Hosie is going to happen because I feel like it already would of and from the last episode, Landon broke the sleeping beauty curse with "True Loves Kiss" and I feel like that marked their relationship to never end. What do you guys think.

I’m really disappointed that Lizzie & Josie are Siphoners. I feel like if they fight by themselves they’re pretty useless and not very capable of defending themselves unless it takes their enemies a long time to kill them. In the vampire diaries it was fine and they tied into season 8 really well but in Legacies it’s like if they’re away from the school’s magical source, they need Hope of Rafael or someone else to draw power from. I know Josie had all that dark magic but that was magic from elsewhere she was filled with. I just think it’s sad that the twins can’t really stand on their own and I think that puts them in more danger than the rest of the characters on Legacies.

If Lizzie linked her life to Landon and she’s alive then technically Landon isn’t dead. In the last episode, Lizzie is still alive so that means Landon is too. If Rafael did kill Landon then Lizzie would be dead too. What do you’ll think?

I haven't noticed this before, but every TVD spinoff always has a love triangle, whether it be between main characters or just between side characters, although it is normally main characters.

For example, the first love triangle was Stefan, Elena and Damon in The Vampire Diaries. Then, in The Originals, there was Elijah, Hayley and Klaus (especially when it came to the fanbase). And now, in Legacies, we have Landon, Hope, Rafael and (a very minor ones) Dorian, Emma, and Alaric & Lizzie, Rafael, and Josie.

(Although the other two I mentioned from Legacies were quickly demolished by the end of Season 1).

I've never realized this before but it may be because I don't normally notice these things.

And the thing is, the triangle's never really get solved unless one of them gets married or if one of them is codependent. For example, Josie's codependency leads her to standing back from Rafael because she doesn't want Lizzie to be mad or disappointed in her. In Alaric's case, he stepped back because Emma had started dating Dorian, one of his closest friends.

In Stefan, Elena and Damon's case, I believe that the love triangle never really ended until Stefan developed feelings for Caroline.

But I may be wrong.