Season Three (Legacies)

What would be the 5 biggest pros and cons of season 3 of legacies now that its over?

For me personally:

Pro 1-Malivore finally got out

Pro 2-clarke came back

Pro 3-3x04 was a good episode, the best imo

Pro 4-Cleo as a character was alright enough

Pro 5-The star wars parody was kind of good

Cheating here-another pro the action was decent considering working under a pandemic

Now onto the cons

Con 1-Still filled with too many useless characters

Con 2-The reasoning for cleo's character makes no sense

Con 3-The 80s horror simulation episode

Con 4-The musical and its not that they sang bad, well I didnt even really watch much of those, its just it felt so out of place here im sorry

Con 5-Lack of cameos of tvd alumni

Cheating here, four bonus reasons-never explained why necromancer last season had chad dig up pothos body cause I was under the assumption that was leading to something but became pointless cause alyssa said bring him and all the creatures back, and other con being they chickened out on the sphinx prophecy and never came to total conclusion. con 3 being they never take cleos backstory to show who killed her sisters and con 4 being not bringing in new faces who were teased but never shown like malivores failures

Im not going to list hope not being a tribrid or the merge not happening yet ill be fair and say those have a time and place of happening. And I know someone is going to put rafaels death as a con but not cause he died but cause some fans are convinced the king arthur thing was leading to some great storyline and I disagree, it was just some thing and ended at that, I still dont see what avenues it was going down that fans insist had potential of.

So I heard that there were supposed to be 4 extra Legacies episodes for Season 3 but they will be put at the start of season 4, now i’m not sure if this is true or not so don’t come at me for sources but everyone who watched knows how they take 1-3 weeks breaks in between episodes at least 2-3 times a season? Why don’t they put episodes back to back each week and have those (so called) extra episodes where they should be? (remember this is all based on the fact if the source is right or not)

If you can believe it we are already at the season finale and the promo says it reveals all which if they are referring to every single mystery set up in the franchise let alone legacies I dont buy that but I do believe it will reveal some things

And the main mysteries being are:

How can cleo get out malivore

Why cant he get out but his monsters can

Why is clarke back

Id like to know the situation with necromancer, like his limbs were left behind in the prison world but he got sent back as amnesiac ted, i dont get it, i guess malivore sent him back to get him out of his life once and for all.

Also who killed cleos sisters would be a nice reveal which im guessing is malivore but maybe its a new villian

I think that is all the mysteries set up this season

Hopefully some people who arent monsters die and one of them being hope, its been a long time coming and hopefully malivore finally gets out and stays out, no more setbacks please

But what do u all hope to see and please make it realistic hopes

What does everyone want to see in these last 7 episodes of this season of legacies?

Just a few for me personally-give us malivore permanently, no more of this he goes away and comes back, just have him stick by

Hope becomes tribrid already

Improve motw to make it impactful

Kill off student characters

Reveal who killed cleos sisters, was it malivore or someone else

Bring in the other malivore creations already

I can hold off on the merge, cause id bet money they wont do that story for real until the twins are 22, right now they are 17 i think

I don't understand two things Cleo said to Alaric.

1) What did she mean by "My grandmother's precious granddaughters."? Is it means that her sisters told her about her grandmother's death or what? I don't understand why she mentioned her sisters in this conversation.

2) The second thing is her grandmother's afterlife. If she went to "heaven" aka Bright World aka Found Peace, why did Cleo said she watches over her as ancestor? After all, that would indicate that her village was practicing ancestral magic and had their own Ancestral Plane. But if that's true, and she is an ancestor in their village Ancestral Plane, she couldn't see Cleo in Mystic Falls like Davina (when she was in New Orleans Ancestral Plane) couldn't see Kol outside New Orleans. Unless by the ancestor she meant the Spirits (spirits of witches) at Peace, then it would make sense that her village was practicing spirit magic.

Cleo: My grandmother's precious granddaughters.

Cleo: She at least was safe from Malivore.

Cleo: Having ascended into the heavens.

Cleo: I believe she still watches over me as ancestor.

Cleo: It was her power running through my veins that helped me infuse the artifact I inspired Leonardo to create with magic that could shield me from Malivore.

in relation to the origins of some characters-who made kaleb and mg into vamps and why, what happened to wades parents, who created the gemini merge, how did ted become necromancer

in relation to the plots of the show-why necromancer had chad obtain the body of pothos(which btw assuming it stayed there, freaking hope and landon had sex in a room with a dead body...eww), what else the prevention of the merge(obviously they are holding off on that, i dont expect to learn on that this season, maybe next season), how some of the violent students can be helped with their issues

people might say the prophecy and sphinx new master is still a mystery, we got to assume the prophecy ended and sphinx new master is necromancer

Does anyone wanna take a guess what the main conflict is going forward. Before you say anything I want you to keep a few things in mind

Julie says malivore is the series villian and brett says mitw is here to stay also

She also said we are getting a new villian, i dont have the tweet anymore cause its gone but I remember her saying it

There might be a side effect to landons return cause of the wish device, alaric said he might have misinterpreted it

The poster of season 3 is seen with water pouring down the steps and hope threw the device into the water

Assuming they follow through on the lore and dont cheat out, hope didnt actually destroy the malivore pit in prison world but rather transferred it somewhere else like when she went in with clarke so mal or necro or someone else can always jump through to the main world

The prophecy is most likely done but we never did find out why necromancer had chad dig out pothos corpse after the students buried him, I think he was going to be the other zombie in 3x04, not minotaur but the actor was unavailable

Maybe Im reading too much into it but brett in some recent interviews made it seem like necromancer will be here a while.

Btw going off the new info we learned how malivore creatures go back inside of him when they die, technically this could mean we could see clarke again cause he also went inside malivore and is technically a type malivore can perfectly consume so maybe he is in the prison world and we will see a brother reunion between him and landon and maybe meet up with malivore and have a family reunion, maybe even meet the other malivore "failures"

Now Im sure this is on someones mind....does this mean we could see kai again cause he also went into malivore and was killed, but at the same time he isnt meant to go in him so its a bit of a toss up.

I wouldnt put it past julie though to add in some stupid thing where golems dont go to malivore in death and neither do vamp, wolf or witch just as some forced way to say they are gone forever. And okay I dont like resurrections as you all know but Id rather have a character come back who has potential for more story than someone who dont and clarke and kai both do.....yes even kai, they didnt exactly tap into all of his potential despite him being in alot of episodes.

What are your thoughts on this episode? Personally I wasn’t a fan, I thought the therapy box storyline was a bit of and bored me. Also I thought that if Hope was to wish for someone back it would be her mother, father or uncle not Landon. I really think that Lizzie and MG should get together like they keep baiting us with it and it hasn’t happened yet and it’s so past due. Not a fan of Finch atm and doesn’t look like someone Josie would be into yk? not hiding on her appearance but she look a bit ‘not Josies type’. Anyways what were your thoughts and/or predictions for the upcoming episode?

Hey guys so five episodes into season three and.. I mean the show’s is still struggling. Like a lot. Anyway I thought I’d shed light on what some of mean when we say it has the potential. Through out its entire run there’s one specific scene sequence that stands out to me to this day. This was season 1x10, the Jinni one. Now what I loved about that sequence is that it seemed grounded in some sort of of reality, the stakes were high, the dialogue was more mature I mean for a minute there Josie was dead! Imagine if they dived more into that story line, even if it was a “mythical world”. If they carried that similar theme through out the rest of the show I wouldn’t be surprised if it was held to stranger things standards. Anyway I’d love y'alls feedback.

Bruh how many times they gone use prison worlds to save the day and these random once in a lifetime astrological events consistently happening to allow these prison worlds being created and as Alyssa herself pointed out their seemingly endless supply of Bennett blood. Like how much blood did they take from bonnie and why hasnt she questioned why they need so much

So I’m a bit 50-50 on this episode yk? I liked it but it definitely wasn’t my favourite. Honestly I was excepting them to wake Hope up of screen and her to pull the sword and not Rafael, I thought that was a bit stupid just randomly throwing in he of royal blood. I kind of enjoyed the Landon-Necromancer banter when Landon was dead, that was honestly a highlight. I also loved the Josie, Lizzie and Alyssa storyline of the episode, I didn’t really see any of the hate towards Josie coming. I know this episode is supposed to be a filler so it wasn’t bad for what they had to work with. Do you think the next episode will be ‘fairytale’ as the last 2 episodes have been very fairytale vibes yk? 😂

Why Landon didn't meet Klaus? I said this in some discussion but appearance of Klaus doesn't require Joseph Morgan. It could be scene like this: Rafael leaves Landon alone in the room with Hope (back to the camera), and suddenly a person dressed like Klaus appears behind him and when he turns back end of the scene. Then when the Necromancer would resurrect him, Landon could tell Hope that he had met her father.

A beautiful scene that would show Klaus is indeed looking after her beyond grave.

I want to make this very simple, imho here is the list of the old characters who should leave and new ones who should come in, if you dont agree, as always I ask you please be respectful and explain why:

but here I go:

alaric-he isnt headmaster worthy, he's just taking up space, they are keeping him just to pair with another girl who is bound to die, im almost 100% sure

landon-sorry i know people like him, i do too but i see nothing more to do with him, let malivore finally have him

chad-I sadly see no reason for him to stick around either even though I like him, we are supposed to see him next week according to jp

necromancer-This one really pains me but if he does bring back malivore, i dont see that partnership lasting long and imo his ability is the ultimate mixed bag cause yeah there are people we'd all love to see resurrected but are they really needed, although we do need him to explain why he kept sphinx and pothos, maybe he dont plan on bringing them back but its for something else. I love his personality but in terms of a power he is a character that cant work unless he works on the side of good against malivore and the prophecy villian cause he can resurrect all these beings to defend himself, right now he is too powerful which is a good thing but I have to once again dumb myself down in order to figuring out how he will be defeated cause they arent going to have him kill off the entire school. In case people have forgotten which some have, that is his goal, he wants to kill hope and her friends.

pedro-sorry, he's a cute kid or whatever but he has no place being there and honestly its too dangerous for him to be there

I'd also demote sheriff mac and maya, they dont have to die, just demote them to guest stars to check up on ethan every now and then cause I think he will become a supernatural and join the school

of course I would say jed should go too but they have some plan for him I guess or the illusion of a plan, i mean I thought kaleb being a regular meant he had some big story for him but nope

as to whom to bring in:

rafaels mom-I feel she is needed to explore rafaels backstory and conclude on it

mgs sire-I feel he or she is needed even in a flashback or just to maybe help him with his ripper problem

kalebs sire-Again I'd like him or her in a flashback at least, just something to do for kaleb. Who knows, maybe mg and kaleb have the same sire.

Jades sire-Again same reasoning as mg more or less cause she has a ripper problem too.

wades parents-I feel they should bring in his parents even in a flashback but malivore probably absorbed them and maybe will manipulate wade in order to get his folks back. And use it to explain how wade made it out alive and not hunted by triad.

malivores other golem kids-Again name dropping them and not showing is pointless, bring them in and preferrably have them act tougher than clarke cause he got tossed around too easily and made a fool out of.

A new creature student-Lastly this is not critical to the show but its not some fan wish either, but i feel they could do with another creature student that isnt vamp, wolf or witch, it might be this cleo chick.

In terms of new faces we are getting its cleo and her sister who are harpies which her sis puts josie in the hospital, pinky who is someone who works for triad that sells malivore artifacts, whatever that means, deacon who is a disabled witch and gunter who is a german vampire who doesnt like alaric. Would not shock me if these are all fake descriptions, gunter really sounds like sebastian tbh. I personally think except cleo and her sis, none of these characters are exactly needed

But overall the legacies roster should look like going into season 3-hope, josie and lizzie, mg, rafael, kaleb, alyssa, jed, ethan, wade, vardemus, jade, wendy, malivore, malivores kids, rafaels mom, kaleb, jade and mgs sires, cleo and her sis and the prophecy villian.