Siren

Sybil already had psychic abilities before becoming immortal with Arcadius's "agreement" she acquired extra abilities such as accelerated regeneration, physical strength superior to that of humans and retractable claws, considering that her psychic abilities were earlier and she acquired immortality later , did she really become a new species? or would it be classified as a psychic-immortal hybrid? after all, the immortality that Arcadius granted was separate from her psychic side.

I became a bit confused by how the sirens' mind control worked after ''We Have History Together'' and throughout the remainder of their appearance. Despite it appearing beforehand that Sybil and Seline had no trouble "sirening" vampires as old as Damon, Stefan, and Enzo, why was it that Sybil seemed so unassertive with Caroline in the episode when prior she seemed so fearless and confident. I was confused why she had to resort to manipulation and trickery to get Caroline to do what she wanted, as opposed to just mind controlling her. A few episodes later Bonnie expressed worry Sybil would mess with her and Caroline's minds should they release her from her confinement, implying she should have had no issues mind controlling them. Was it that Sybil, unlike Seline (or so it seemed), needed to come into physical contact with those she wanted to control? Did she have some sort of personal preference towards controlling men? Or, did no longer serving Cade directly weaken her mental powers? I don't know if there was something I missed or not when watching the season.

I saw some old speculations and some fans say because of her meanness, but in the last few eps she showed remorse for Damon when she entered his mind or when she apologized to Seline.

Going back to the vampires weaknesses we still dont know, does anyone else want to know what happens if vampires are taken down by a couple limbs, organs(not heart or brain), along with their skin, bone and muscle? Its gory sure but it does help answer if these immortal creatures can survive this damage, I think the closest we got to that is their eyes being punctured which grew back and enzos hand got cut off which I think he attached it back.

Also another point I want to make, I'll say this one negative thing regarding these new monsters is that if you start bringing in all these immortal beasts, it does sort of make vampires look pointless cause its like how did esther not know of these things or make them herself? And before you say malivore means memories go away so of course she wouldnt know.....well no cause esther and the vamps came before malivore and so did qetsiyah with silas and so did cade with the sirens which those creatures were also vampire like as well so we cant just attribute this to legacies cause its like why didnt esther copy qetsiyah or cades spells either. Why didnt she copy the phoenix spell that makes landon? Obviously the real reason is cause this is a fictional series and the writers didnt think of it at the time but in terms of the folklore the verse has made up, it makes these witches look really stupid if you ask me.

Mine were... Sirens, Travellers and Phoenix

When we were introduced to the sirens on TVD they were very interesting to me, and I think they did not develop their species much, as, they never told us where their species was born or anything, or exactly what the sea connects them to, since we see that they do not they are linked with it as it is usually in the mythology. I think they could show us more of them and their species. I also think that it would be good idea for Legacies to add any character that comes to Salvatore School who is a siren, since until now we only know Sybil and Seline so they can show us more about this, and it would be quite interesting. What do you think of this?

You know as much as i enjoy the more unique and especially powerful supernaturals, I hope to never see in the future again, never see these past creatures from the past 2 shows before legacies:

No more new:

Original vampires or enhanced originals

No more immortals like silas and amara

No more pure psychics like cade

No more siphoners

No more sirens like sybil and seline

No more of the five

No more phoenix hunters-like rayna, dont confuse them with landon who is a phoenix

No more hybrids

And even though i dont truly count them as supernaturals, no more dopplegangers

If they wanna make one of the gemini though into heretics, okay fine, but im saying for new characters, dont make them of these past creatures, make them of the new ones to expand the supernatural world

If Sybil wanted to get rid of Cade's slavery and drink Qetsiyah's elixir, would she become more powerful than him - getting rid of him forever? and even death since he probably cannot kill or drag the soul of a true immortal? if Sybil's immortality and psychic mermaid skills were unified with those of the immortal when drinking the elixir? or was Cade going to undo her pact and was she just an ordinary immortal like Silas?

Would Malivore memory manipulation powers have worked on Immortal (Silas and Amara), Psychic (Arcadius) and Siren (Seline and Sybil)?

If by chance an entire tribe of psychics made the Arcadius agreement 1000 years after Sybil and Seline and these villagers became sirens, would Sybil and Seline be superior to them or would their psychic powers be equal? Sybil could control them like an original vampire by compelling an ordinary vampire?

If a Werewolf and a Siphoner can become a vampire without no consequences and have the ability to still use their other paternal’s abilities despite being undead, is it possible for a siren to also become a vampire? What are your thoughts?

I was wondering if a page can be made where there can be a catagory for each species, and in those categories would have the people of that species power rankings, for example, Witches: 1) Qetsiyah 2) The Hollow 3) Dahlia, etc, with power numbers and I think that it would be a good idea just so it would be easier to find the most powerful person of that species.

Many say that a siren or a phoenix cannot become a vampire, if they die with vampire blood, the logic would be to wake up in transition because the effects of vampire blood are irreversible or feed or dissect and die. I know Arcadius resurrects sirens and Phoenix is reborn from the ashes ... but if vampirism is irreversible, they must wake up in transition, right? Because that's the logic of vampirism, I think Arcadius or Phoenix can't alter the vampirism of their bodies, after it's impossible, unless it's witchcraft. It's kind of illogical that the idea of immortality prevents them from becoming vampires if vampirism is irreversible. This has been mentioned thousands of times, and there is no way to reverse vampirism without the healing created by Qetsyah.

Do you think Sirens can invade the minds of Originals?

Guys what if there is the most powerful being like a mix between a siren and a vampire and a werewolf and an upgraded original and a witch and all the malivore beings in one girl or a boy. How powerful would he/she be? And what stuff could she/he do