I hate Alaric in this episode. Saying Stefan abandon her. Stefan only abandon her because he had the mark and wanted to keep Caroline safe no matter what Stefan said to Damon " As long as I have this scar, Rayna will hunt me, This isn't just about you and me anymore, there's kids involved I'm not going to put them in danger which means I can't be with my girlfriend as long as Rayna is alive and you just told me she can never die, so we have to figure out another way to get rid of her or we need to get rid of this scar" and then Damon gave him a letter and said the whole " I'm not a good brother when I'm not with Elena " crap. Alaric was only happy because Stefan decided to not go to Caroline for her safety. PLUS Caroline didn't even need to choose the children, she could of ran with Stefan. while Alaric kept them safe. So this bullsh*t Alaric is putting on Stefan is unjust. And its ridiculous how he didn't even cared at all about Stefan and was convincing Damon to let him die. Like WTF?! Damon should of punched Alaric in the face for that. It would be fitting. And Especially Caroline. Caroline of all people should understand why Stefan left. sh*tty writing TVD
=_=. is this person serious? If this isn't a troll, This person has not watched the show at all and is a waste of time to argue how much of an idiot this person is.
Some people who watch the show may not have english as their native tongue. So stop putting them down.
True my bad. :\
wow so many mistakes
The person made 3 mistakes. yeah not so many but coming from a DE fan it just makes a bad example of them. Makes them look like a bunch of teenage girls who dont know how to write properly and is obsessive of their ship Delena. Which I have no ships for the show.
Also how the fuck is it perfect? Just because it's better than Delena doesn't mean it's perfect. What about Stefan being a ripper. He still can't party too hard because he will lose control. Stefan has still killed many during his ripper days.
I also disagree. Like really.
1. Stefan and Elena's love is not forced because if it was then Elena wouldn't be with Damon right now, She has free will she can choose whoever she wants
2. The sirebond is caused by feelings but is activated by vampire blood. Who is to say that she wouldn't been sired to Stefan if she was turned by HIS blood. she DID after all chose him
3. Destined love is basically like soul mates. From the moment Stefan and Elena were born they were meant for each other. That's all! Basically Silas and Amara's love was so strong that it got doppelgangers to fall in love with each other. Elena fell in love with Stefan first and then Damon.
And yeah Elena has changed a lot and Stefan deserves better frankly. I haven't even heard a thank you l from Damon or Elena last episode just them focusing on their flawed relationship. since Stefan got his brain fried for those two to have the cure. But Elena hasn't completely changed. Remember! this is a love triangle and next episode is going to lean towards Stelena even though i know the writers won't pull it off because DE fans like yourself would be bitching and I think Stefan deserves more and needs someone better than a girl who slept with both of them but the writers sadly is not giving that to me. Instead they shove the love triangle in our faces. Elena has to bend her morals for Damon yet she told him last episode " It's not just that we are bad with each other, It's that we do bad things for each other, and I can't live like that " THAT right there tells me that the old Elena might be coming back. Meaning Stelena might be back. But like i said. I doubt it because even if the old Elena is coming back. I don't think Stelena is gonna come back. The writers won't have the balls to do it.
Also btw. While she was with Stefan she hasn't had all these problems like she does now with Damon. Hell! Elena blamed Katherine when Damon did something wrong and even Damon realized it " Look at us Elena, we are in a toxic relationship, I just killed your friend and you find someone else to blame! " See how Damon makes Elena a bad person compared to Stefan. She never had to blame other people on Stefan's actions. When Stefan almost drove her off the Bridge in season 3 Did she blame Klaus? Nope. That's why I don't ship Delena because it's too flawed and pathetic and shipped by hardcore DE fans like yourself who doesn't give two shits about being better or about Elena doing the right thing or not. Because no matter how flawed they are no matter how flawed Damon is and make ELena to be, You have Delena. and that's all that matters to you. Jeremy can be killed by Damon and Elena would be waiting for him in the bedroom waiting to have hardcore porno sex with Damon. Since recently Damon has been talking about sex and ignoring their problems in their relationships. So basically my point is
Stelena is overall better but a cliche and I don't want it anymore Stefan deserves better
Delena is a fan-service ship and a cliche and it's a flawed,weak relationship
Both ships are tiring and we need a new plot than this stupid love triangle. Thank you for reading. Your time is appreciated :)
Exactly lol. Elena should just stay with Damon. I don't want her to be with Stefan anymore. Katherine seems the better choice.
Damon didn't tell her about Jeremy being expelled and him almost dying trying to protect Katherine and that her ex boyfriend ( Stefan ) who she was thinking about during the summer and had a bad feeling about him was missing and suffering. Damon killed Sarah whitmore during their weekend trip during the summer when they were together. Yea real love there for sure!!! Elena makes Damon a better person right? XD
The black eyes really confused me. Is matt Dead?
Btw I love the hallucinations Stefan was having. and Damon didn't not only told her about Katherine but also didn't tell her about Stefan missing and suffering and Silas on the loose and Jeremy beign expelled. Yup...That's not going to blow up in his face at all. Elena already realizes something is wrong with Stefan by the 2nd episode because It is shown in the promo. Elena says " Stefan's has been reaching out to me, All i know is that he is scared and he's in a lot of pain, We have to find him " While she looked like she could break in tears any moment. Damon also finds out that Stefan has been drowning over and over again. Meaning He knows where he is by then? Hopefully.
What I don't get? Is that isn't Silas able to run fast? Like seriously he could of just snapped Damon's neck and went for Katherine or Made them stop with his powers. He made Caroline cut herself. And he compelled humans to do what he wanted.
Stefan deserves better then Elena. Elena even says it in 4x23 " You deserve whatever you want in life, You deserve this " When she was giving him the cure. I really hope the writers don't make season 5 a Stelena thing again. Really tired of it now. I loved Stelena in season 1,2,3 but season 4 just had to ruin it with its shit writing giving a sire-bond and Stefan dumping her ass BEFORE they even knew about the sirebond. AND she even says Damon will be the Worst choice and that he was terrible. And Silas is on the loose as if their relationship will last. God! if Elena starts running back to Stefan. I want Stefan to ignore or her or just not accept her as a lover anymore. Let her be with Damon at least until it somehow gets ruined but don't make her jump back to Stefan. Stefan and Elena had an epic love but that is destroyed. I'm more into Stefan and Katherine.
^^ @ Vbazzano47 Not just how Stefan was able to fight compulsion to the extent of Klaus having to push him across the room and scream at his face but Stefan is also a doppelganger just like Elena. And Stefan and her wanted the same things in season 4 but Damon didn't. And how Elena has bad expectations for Damon telling him he would be the " Worst " choice and Stefan she thought would be the " Best " choice but not Stefan or how Elena tells Stefan " You deserve whatever you want in life " . The audience maybe something of a concern but I've seen other shows not give two shits about them. Like Dexter. It's last season ongoing right now is horrible. Btw I'm not even SE i used too. When Elena was much more devoted into Stefan in season 3 and 2 and 1 but it seems vampirisim kinda ruined that part of her. But to me - Just because the fans DE might be endgame. But like julie said the love triangle will never die meaning there is always a chance for her to bounce back into Stefan especially with this whole Silas and him being a doppelganger stuff going on in season 5. You will have some DE scenes i gurantee but don't expect it to be perfect. People thought SE would be endgame when season 3 finale happened and when she said " I love you no matter what it's the best choice i made " in 4x1 Now look how that went out. Sire-bond interfered with them from the beginning. And the show is expected to have 6 seasons.
You can't take quantity over quality. The writers worked very hard on Stefan and Elena in season 1 and 2 and 3. Stefan was able to resist compulsion from Klaus for Elena. Stefan and Elena also wanted the same thing in season 4 and how similar Stefan and Elena acted. How Elena went after revenge after she got her humanity How Stefan was trying to help her get her humanity just like Elena wanted to help Stefan get his humanity in season 3. There are a lot of signs. Plus all they need to do is get the audience at the edge of their seats at the last episode. Honestly it can go either way. It won't matter if a bunch fo DE fans get upset if SE turns out to be endgame because as an acting buisness you just need a big audience to watch your show to make profit.
Elena is in love with Damon but she still loves Stefan and cares for him. And we still have 2 seasons left so don't get cocky. I don't think Elena is a bitch i just think that the writers really messed up her character a little. Elena was always picking Stefan when she was human and she said " I love you no matter what its the best choice i made " and now she says Damon would be the worst choice? Elena once said " It's you and me Stefan...always " when Elena fed Stefan. They did had an epic love but that changed because Stefan saved Damon and while he was gone Elena and Damon started to develop more intimate feelings for each other. Stefan said told Elena it was his fault. Which techinically it is his fault and he knew this might happen but he did it anyways because he didn't want Damon to die. And Damon hitting on Elena while he was gone was a shit move from him too. Elena isn't a bitch - Just sad and boring and hypocritical.
^ Completely agree
@Bers246. I don't think Stefan's blood can do anything. Because he is vampire and he doesn't go in part with nature since he died and isn't human anymore. Elena could have been used for Klaus's hybrids because she was human. But now that she is a vampire her blood is useless. Katherine on the other hand is different. She is human now. She can benefit Silas. Stefan we don't know yet. It's possible that Bonnie or a witch can maybe contact Stefan's soul considering Stefan isn't on the other side but is immortal to a regular vampire extent. But if a witch can make contact to Stefan's soul and link his to Silas. There may be a way for Silas to die. But then again Stefan would die too. Witches made doppelgangers so Silas could die in his place. A Petrova doppelgänger is estimated to be born once every 500 years. But we have no idea if the witches only created one or only 2 doppelgangers for Silas because they were busy creating doppelgangers for Tatia Petrova. Stefan was born in 1847 so witches didn't create a doppelganger every 500 years for Silas. Maybe they created one every 600 years. Since 6 x 3 = 18 meaning the 1800's.