I made this post to talk about klaus's strength... didn't you bother that klaus wasn't real strong as he should have been as an original hybrid? I mean if the strength of the werewolf is added to his vampire's... the result is having both strengths combined... if we think about it, a werewolf in a full moon night, (or an evolved one, or with a moon light ring) is strong enough to face and fight a 200 years old vampire as Marcel was back then in S2, Jackson was even stronger, he was strong enough to even face some strix members... so, if we think in a strength like that added to an original's then we should have had a klaus really strong.. in fact his werewolf side should have been for him like an enhanced side, a side that enhance his vampire, he should have been strong as Marcel the beast... what do you guys think?
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Psychics are over any mind trick or control than any vampire, originals or non original, silar never control a werewolf? Isn't klaus part werewolf and he was subjected to silas mind power? Until now psychics can control most of the creatures, humans and supernaturals, we only saw silas couldn't control Jeremy bc hunters have a magic protection to any kind of mind control
Perhaps it is possible but I have my doubts, I think that over the years the witch's gene muteated... or pehaps the wicth's gene was transformed in the moment inadu cursed them, turning the gene into something different, turning it in the werewolf's gene.... in other words maiking the wicth's gene disappears
PD: I believe there is a way of removing the werewolf's curse, you see, isn't a hex almost the same as a curse? Coz I remember freya using a wiicth to siphoned rebekah's hex, that means siphoners can remove hex and perhaps (and very possible) curses, so I think if a werewolf is siphoned until there is not more mqgic in her/him it should fix or heal the curse. Personally i think this is something writers will never explore, siphoners have so much potential as to resolve any magic plot. For example what would happen if all hope's magic is siphon (her witch part) ?
I wonder did hope really compel the bartender or did he play being compelled so she didn't realize who he really was.... I think it is very possible she has something of an original, but I still have my doubts, we still need more information.
The dagger obviously didn't work on her as it didn't work on kalus, (it supuse to be due to silver don't affects werewolves) however the dagger never put him down, not even for a short time unlike hope. Like i said we need more info
Hope's blood was incinerated (that blade) so i don't think Landon die with hope's blood inside him. Other point to have in mind is that Landon is not completely human, despite not having his Phoenix side, he is not completely human as you can see how his boddy can't stand hope's blood, thefore hope's blood don't have the turning vampire effect on him but to killing him
@Bennet blood, the ceremony originally came from hollow's coven, a coven of witches, so it is logical to think it also work with them and not just werewolves
It was really a shame writers didn't explode all of his strength, he could even have exceed the strength of Marcel the beast if we think the about the strength of werewolves like Jackson had... We could even saw how strong Hayley was and even Tyler( or that traveler guy in his body), whe he killed Stefan pretty easy
@Sean, it is diferent to undo the spell or the magic that created them than to die bieng immortal... if you die when you supposed to be inmortal then it obviously means you're not.... and this wasn't the case of Amara and Silas...There were not weapon, not spells, no anything that could take their lifes... they didn't have any known weaknesses... they could only die if they were return to be humans...unlike the originals, the sirens or Dahlia... They were so inmortals that nature had to find a balance, a part of them who could die.... and this is something never happened after them, something we only saw on them... nature didn't create doppelganger of the originals simply bc there were always something that could kill them, originals, enhanced original, upgraded original... all of them could die as vampire while Silas and amara couldn't die as inmortals.... This wiki even categorize Inmortal Silas as undestructible.... The show also said that they could never die, only by bieng human again... but again is diferent what you said, being inmortal does not mean the immortality prevents from being revert or undo the immortality itself
@Novak0winchester You don't need the blood of a Mikaelson witch to create an original... Esther used the blood of the doppelganger to create the originals and the enhanced original... when lucien modified the original spell freya's blood was used so I think it was due to the modification.... who knows really why...
By the way Truly immortals did exist, those were Silas and amara... The cure wasn't a weakness, it was the one thing that could reverse or take away their immortality and just after that they could die but not before, they were so "unkillable" that nature had to create versions of them who could die.... we haven't seen anything like that in others inmortals
@Tommy, Dhalia was a very powerful witch who suppose to become immortal when she linked to klaus and she wasn't something nature didn't allow to exist, klaus himself was also suppose to be something nature didn't and yet we saw how it turned out, he even can make other hybrids, Hope too, so I don't think an original siphoner are going to be "something nature didn't allow.... if Silas and Amarra, (truly Inmortal beings) existed I don't see why would be a problem with an original siphoner... In fact it could even exist an enhanced or upgrade original siphoner.... or an original trihybrid (a siphoner have the potential to even being a trihybrid)
@Niklaus972 Actually we never saw a siphoner or hybrids having problem with that, I think most of the fans misunderstood Mary Louise and Nora final moments, they died because of the explosion of the Phoenix stone (which was caused by the spell they casted) not because they siphoned it, Mary Louise warned Nora that because of her state she won't survive if she siphon it, but it was because she was already pretty weak and dying due to her being poisoned by Rayna's blood.
Kai siphoned a spell made by hundreds of travelers, a spell that covered an entire town, and he didn't seem to have any problems by having too much magic... so I almost sure siphoning an Original won't be too much for an Heretic or a siphoner.... but I can't say either an original can die of this way due to what happened with Rebekah and papa Tunde (Although logic tells if you remove (siphon) magic what keep you alive, or magic that make you an original you should die)
You got a point here, they didn't have much vampirism experience, and how could Rayna chasing them for decades if they spent most of time in the prison world....
It was a shame how Julie plenc waste such a characters, Heretics could have and should have been the most dangerous group of vampires after the originals.... They were the firsts vampires with magic (or that could do magic) they had not limits for what they could have done with themselves... like for example find a way to enhance their vampirism or create a protecciĂłn spell that prevent them from dying.... The possibilities were so many... they were vampires they could have more resistance to some spells that usually affects regulars witches... or doing spell at vampires speed.... many things writes could have done with them so they could have been the big bad of the season just like klaus was in his moment.
BTW I think Valerie was turned by Julian no lily (she had Julian's blood in her sistem)
I think most of the fans think Hope's power is the one we saw when she was possessed by inadu or had the "darkness" in side her (still inadu), that wasn't her real power, it was her power combined with inadu's, when we think in Hope's raw power whe should compare with freya's, another first born mikaelson with. Being klaus's daughter doesn't make her strong, her werewolf's side doesn't boost her wicht side, and neither should do her vampire side (although she is not a vampire yet).
I know she is powerful and we probably haven't seen all she can do but as far as it has been shown she isn't the most powerful wicht ever existed as it was mentioned, the example of this is how dark Josie fought her and seems more powerful than her (I know she wasn't using all her power bc she didn't want to hurt Josie, but josie wasn't either using all of the dark magic).
PD: I still wonder how Josie was able to retain the magic if siphoner can't do that
CjMikaelson The WO bullet in that spell wasn't to make the venom mortal for the originals or with the purpose to kill them, the with oak wood was used by Esther in the original spell, as Lucien used that same spell (modified) he used the same ingredients (only changed the doppelganger's blod by freya's). The venom had nothing to do with the white oak bullet
About the beast's venom affecting klaus was something that we always ask ourselves about it, klaus is part werewolf so a werewolf's bite should not affecting him but as this venom is new we can't be sure.... The only think we know is that they said it can kill klaus.
With the others originals is different, the originals are not completely immune to the venom of werewolf's bite of any of strain, just a single strain affect them, it makes them sick (and see ilusions ) but it doesn't kill them thefore with a stronger venom is not strange it becomes able to kill them.
Necromancer can't bring supernatural back? Can anyone remind me when that was said (chapter)?
Also if it so then how can he bring a wicht back? if he can bring a wicht something tell me he can bring a werewolf back due to the fact they both are supernatural alive beings (not undead )
Jjames had a point. Alaric vampire side did not die, and it wasn't cure either, it was stripped out of him, so my guess is that, in that condition, don't apply the rule of the of all compulsion fade after the vampire die, because technically alaric vampire side didn't die and it wasn't also cured, they magic that made him vampire was reverted leaving behind all the effects it ever caused (all compulsion).
It is really a shame kai is dead, but I think it is because writers don't know what to do with his character, he was a sociopath who hated his coven, coven that longer exist, so his purpose is most over now, as Jo and lizzie are part of that coven is understandable he wanted to kill them, but it seems that plot does not fit in a supernatural teen drama show like legacies, so writers took him out of picture. once he was out of the prision he has not mayor purpose, (it would have more logical if he would have wanted to take revenge from Bonnie for imprison him, by the way It seems all those years chained to that chair and listening the same song over and over again didn't making more crazy)
You see, how is possible kai couldn't break from those chains? He was playing with hope, (at least in the fisical fight), even if he couldn't break the chains with his strength, he could have with magic, but he didn't even tried, he could even paralyze Rik as he did with Jo, or with any other spell, and in case the chains was enchanted by some hope's spell he should have been able to siphon it,. Basically He just wait to be killed.
PS: Maybe writers bring him back again, after all the Necromancer has the ability to bring people back and control, perhaps he use Kai of this way.
Correct me if I'm wrong but if I remember well from the last season of TVD , all of those who came back from the hell, they weren't able to die, were they? They weren't completely alive as we could see with vicky and her mom, (and katherine too) who every time they die they kept coming back, I also remember Kai wasn't completely fine, He couldn't taste anything, I suppose he couldn't die by that time either. But I understand that probably change when the hell was destroyed
I think Julie Planck was inspired by Teen Wolf, that human werewolf form was the one who have many of the werewolves on that show... Stil there I must admit it is cool to see another form of a werewolf.