I was always under the impression that she was bound in the 1700s (when New Orleans and the Ancestral Plane was created). But what specific year/decade?
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@Jyuubi But why would Esther allow Alaric the ability to create the very things he’s trying to exterminate? It doesn’t make sense. Vampires can and have wrecked countless havoc in a span of 90 years. The multiplication of vampires from Alaric would cause new innocents to lose their lives. Esther was a genius witch who wanted to wipe vampires off the face of the earth.
Though it was never stated or implied whether Esther removed his ability to sire, yet, there is no reason whatsoever for her to allow Alaric have the ability to create more abominations since it was a spell she could remove.
@King327 The Sirelink is a spell created by Esther. It wasn’t a consequence created by Nature. Nothing suggests this.
Also, Originals can die by White Oak (and other extreme means but can still be killed). That was enough for Nature. Nature didn’t need them to be able to create weaker progeny that could die. This isn’t Qetsiyah’s Immortality spell that Nature couldn’t revoke.
Thus, Esther wouldn’t have allowed the Sirelink spell pass on to Alaric because it literally doesn’t serve any purpose.
Esther was the creator of the Vampirism Spell. This means she could remove literally any facet of the spell she didn’t want or add new properties to the spell, like she did with Alaric. Now, Esther’s main goal for coming back to life was to create an Original Vampire that would wipe out all her children, with an indestructible stake (which she knew would also wipe out all their turned progeny).
With the above factors in mind, there is no logic in thinking that she’d allow the Sirelink Spell to go into or be part of Alaric’s creation. That would be counter productive.
She’d also know that even if Alaric would never turn anyone on purpose because of his hate for vampire (similar to how Mikael never ever turned anyone because of his self-hate) his blood could be stolen and used to make one vampire that could go on to create 000s of vampire in literally a day and on and on and on. Bringing her back to square one.
These canon reasons leads me to believe she didn’t include the Sirelink Spell when making him, or she edited it out of the composition of the Vampirism Spell. She’s its creator.
The only way I ever see her allowing Alaric the ability to sire new vampires is if she also made it that any vampire he sires would also inherit his hatred for vampires and (like Mikael) only feast on vampire blood (or starve to death). That way, Alaric would be creating “anti-bodies” (his sireline) that go after “infections” (other vampires), wiping them off the face of the earth and when he dies, they’d all die with him. This would make his work (and Esther’s goal) much easier to achieve.
It wouldn’t make any kind of sense whatsoever that Esther would allow him the ability to sire new vampires, if they’re just gonna act like every other vampire. The average vampire is a destructive force that takes the lives of countless innocents and spread so quickly that the death toll is multiplied. As a teenager, Elena would technically have 80-90 years tops, before old age comes and takes her. That’s nearly a century of Alaric-generated vampires wreaking havoc on the earth. That doesn’t seem like a mistake Esther would make again, especially since she’s the creator of the spell who could just edit that bit out of it since it literally doesn’t serve any single purpose to her course.
She was a magical genius. She wouldn’t be that sloppy after 1000 years of learning from her mistakes in creating vampires.
Instead of all the drama of having to deal with a new sireline, just remove the ability to create them. Problem solved. He can then have laser focus on his assignment and not worried about someone stealing his blood, while also thinking about protecting Elena from untimely death.
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Technically i’d say yes because you gain more experience after overcoming any major obstacle in life. So you’re smarter, quicker, and more resourceful in dealing with similar or lesser foes.
I think it also improves a witch’s magic because magic in the TVDU seems to improve with more practice/use and if it’s anything like a muscle then the more you lift, the more muscle you develop and the more muscle you develop, the more you can carry. Bonnie’s magic improved drastically over a 10-year span (quicker than any witch we’ve seen probably due to her bloodline) to the point she could resurrect the dead without channeling, and kept building until the Hellfire feat. But if she didn’t practice her magic I feel she’d have remained at the same level she was in Season One.
Their magic improves due to grit and hardwork (strengthening through the process). They stretched their magical muscles to get here. Not because they automatically got bestowed a new level or status because they defeated another witch/foe.
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It’s simply because witch spirits are still tethered to the physical plane through the Other side or other anchors (like bones) in the Hollow’s case.
This means, they act like they did when they were alive, like gaining information/knowledge, learning new languages, understanding the physical world as they watch it go by, and, of course, practice their magic and learn more and more about it.
But their magic won’t be able to physically affect the physical plane unless they have a talisman on the physical plane as well.
If a vampire spirit that’s been on the Other Side for 1000 years, has 1000 years worth of knowledge, why can’t a witch on the Other side (or tethered to the earth in some other way) be able to gain magical experience and knowledge?
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So basically in the 1700s between like 1718 and 1766 because New Orleans was created in 1718 and Ysabelle (the witch believed to create the Ancestral Plane) died in 1766?
No one deserves to die so young. She was one of the most beautiful actresses on the show. Rest in Peace mama! You’re pain free for life!
If they siphoned him to the last drop, they’d kill him, sucking up all the dark magical energy in his body and they could transfer that to Hope. So in that sense it’d work. But he’d wake up again, given that it’s neither a spell to kill him (like the spell Bonnie used against Klaus) neither is it a weapon specifically fashioned to kill him (Freya’s dagger), so in that sense it won’t succeed in killing him. They’d ultimately fail.
The only way to put him down using this method of siphoning is if they’d be permanently siphoning him to the last drop. He’d die but would be resurrected almost instantly but die almost instantly as well and the cycle would continue (like it did when Papa Tunde sacrificed Rebekah). But being that it’d giving them endless power, they’d wouldn’t be able to handle it, enough to transfer it to Hope, and even if they transfer it to Hope, it might damage Hope too.
^Not just that but the Prison Worlds were said to be created by a Bennett Spell. So it’s rooted in Bennett magic.
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Witch spirits communicate with each other in the Other Side. So, all Shiela’s spirit would have done is inform them (possibly spirits of dead Gemini witches) to combine their powers with her to send Bonnie (and Damon) there using the same spell used to send people/things there. She worked with the Gemini coven and must have known the incantation, so it’s not hard to imagine that’s what happened behind the scene.
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The Prison World had the tendency to resurrect anyone sent there. So, sending spirits there as prisoners would resurrect them. This is how Bonnie and Damon came back to life. About why send Bonnie there, knowing Kai was there, I’d say this was the only way to resurrect her granddaughter, in such a short notice. Why did she send Damon along with Bonnie? Kai. She knew Kai was dangerous and believed if Bonnie were alone with him she’d end up dead again, so sending an old vampire along with Bonnie would somehow ensure Bonnie’s safety.
Eh that’s basically the power and potential of every single siphoner, so what’s the point of the merge?
At the time of her first death I don’t think the Hollow used Dark Magic. She was already born really powerful and just drew power from things around her (like siphoning, but without needing to touch) to add to her power.
By her second death, I would have been safe to say that she also practiced Dark Magic but I think the Hollow was always steps ahead of those that wanted her dead. So, before the scene where Hayley stabs her to death, she’d already prepared a spell that wouldn’t anchor her spirit to the physical plane through Hope. As long as she was inside Hope or still bound to our world, nothing would happen to her body. This didn’t happen in Dahlia’s case because Dahlia didn’t prepare and probably thought there was no need because she’d never lose.
^But that still has no connection with Hope’s power or “Tribridness”.
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She changed her surname and became a doctor to distance herself from her family (the leaders of the Gemini coven) but especially due to the murder of most of her siblings by Kai.
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Hope is Tribrid because of Klaus. He had the werewolf and witch genes, and vampire gene (for lack of a better term) which he must have passed all to Hope. He was an inactive Tribrid in other words. Hope would have still been born Tribrid if Hayley was basically human.
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This is why the Merge thing is so stupid. The winning twin absorbs most of the qualities of the weaker twin including their magic. If a Siphoner, they gain the ability to generate their own magic henceforth, if the weaker twin was a full witch. So what ability to generate magic will the girls inherit? Isn’t the Merge only supposed to happen at the age of 22? Is Legacies gonna be on til the girls are 22? And even if they do it now, and Lizzie or Josie wins, what coven are they going to lead? Kai’s the last living member and he’s dead now. And the last twin is dead, so what coven are they leading, exactly?
It is nothing but stupid. What’re the explanations they gave for each of those points I raised?
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Simple short answer: the magic of the Phoenix stone and the magic that put Klaus’ soul into Alaric’s body are different, and thus, do not go by the same rule.
Long answer: the Phoenix Stone was created by the Everlasting Eight (a coven of 8 Native American witches) using Traditional Magic (because they called on the “Great Spirit”—which Native Americans call Nature—to empower them). So they would have been utilizing their own power combined with natural objects. The incantations and belief system around the spell that empowered the stone would have been rooted in NA culture and ritual. It also wasn’t an intentional possession spell but seemed more of a side effect of the Phoenix stone exploding. Greta and Maddox’s spell was Latin-based and intentional, with a target in mind. Alaric’s body would have been “prepared” to house Klaus, so any problems as a result would have been taken care of by their spell.
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Yeah, just like vampires go all grey/dark veiny when they die, or desiccated vampires look like mummies, this is a side effect of the dagger used against them.
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