All posts by JesseSs12

Why did the Hollow lose consciousness after being split into four parts, it was just her magic causing friction between the originals and the environment when they found themselves in the same environment, after getting closer she started to gain consciousness until she tried to take control of their bodies again, and then freaking Hope out when she took all four parts for herself, she would finally be back there in season 5 if Klaus hadn't destroyed himself along with Elijah.

The only thing I wonder is that maybe the book had the magic of all the tribesmen and elders, maybe some kind of anti-sacrificial magic, I imagine since they gave fractions to it to become the strongest maybe they could revoke it if magic wasn't "dead" after all that's what fueled it, so they managed to imbue the book with their magic while they were alive from generation to generation, I imagine that's the only possible loophole? Because if it was their dead magic it wouldn't work, I figured maybe even Rebekah's death could be used in a spell strong enough to stop the Hollow, or even Freya could do that if she somehow managed to extract magic massive, If se invaded of the Ancestral plane against their will to forge some kind of dagger (which would be very difficult since they weren't willing to collaborate, and if Freya entered the ancestral plane, she might not come back).

I don't understand much of the witchcraft in the series either, but I think it had to do with the instructions the Hollow's mother gave Vincent, plus the fact that she was supposed to know how the Hollow's magic worked and how to stop it, that spell with the bones and the book was something more to do with the Hollow's body to be able to separate her from her physical body, after she had already been resurrected and imprison her spirit again.

Yes, but I think you understand, don't you? if it was possible to place a curse on travelers so they would not use traditional magic, it would not be impossible to place one on the Hollow, she could not use sacrificial magic, she would have to look for another source (my guess is that she would use magic in the blood of vampires, somehow because they were very strong and fast for her, that she didn't get tired with too much magic, like normal witches). For what increases her powers was only sacrificial magic, it was through this magic that she drained the lives of many witches and other beings, and also the knowledge acquired, without that she is just a witch practically enlarged (by the fractions she received more than 9 months of her tribe) and also because she came from two powerful bloodlines, which in itself is already puzzling due to the fact that only the massive magic of the ancestors could stop her, so I asked the question, I thought it required huge charges of magic - a much higher charge of magic, just that of the ancestors and the multiple deaths linked to Elijah were enough how did Vincent manage without an extra charge of magic?

yes, but Henry had that vibe, even more so because the way he appears in the flashbacks suggests that they were once friends, I think it would probably be a character that would be underused and become death of the week like Lexi, Jesse, Malcolm or Oscar, there was some vampires and hybrids that had very little screen time and were very captivating, I particularly liked Jesse the vampire Augustine that Caroline got involved with I thought he would be taken advantage of, or even Malcolm before he was killed, I think in the case of the heretics it was unnecessary, they didn't get very deep into them beyond Valerie.

Why would they have to develop him into the TVD stories and develop him, why do fans get attached to the characters and want to know his past, plus Enzo was Damon's friend putting a second best friend wouldn't make sense, it was like Damon in love with Elena while her ex-girlfriend Charlotte got back, she was adorable but it didn't make sense for Damon to get back with her.

I just said what you said "there's no logic for Hope to have all that strength it's just her magic, she wasn't a match for Aurora, nor for the circus vampire" then they quoted the EP of the fight with Aurora in 4x19, how would she beat Aurora on this EP? Wounded by the red oak and weakened? Then there is the story of the originals, what gives them superior power is the vitality of the sun and the white oak, Hope has a different oak as a weakness did you know? which determines that the sun and the oak are also the sources of her strength and immortality just like them, she was born biologically with the blood of one of them, the originals are not regular Vampires to be determined by the law of age " the eldest is the strongest", and vampires of the same age are a match for each other too, if so the Trinity would destroy the Mikaelsons with only 2 or 3 years difference between them. Then last Hope was born directly from an original why even you said you don't know where her strength and ability to compel other vampires comes from? Isn't that in itself an answer?

It is very illogical to be raising this question right now, if it was a matter of age and if she is so weak after all why would Valerie in the same situation as her not have the same strength?(Valerie is The First Heretic right? In the same situation Of tribrid?) she was also not just a creature of the night and was no match for Julian, even if it was a matter of strength because she has her magical side as an advantage, Hope differs from hybrids and heretics and originals in several ways, plus the question that does not want to silence, and that is quite irrational Hope is a regular vampire? for the question of age to be raised? Have you ever been to the original vampire page and observed that what gives power to an original is exactly being created by Esther's spell? when a vampire the same age as the Originals (Tristan tried to fight an Original did he succeed? because if it was just a matter of strength the Strix and Trinity would have eliminated the Originals because the age difference between them is short Trinity has 2 years difference and the older Strix 4 or 5 years) if it was a matter of strength the Strix and Trindade would have won they are a thousand years old like the Mikaelson basically.

script and protagonism, sometimes the script leaves meaningless holes, such as Katherine's daughter, Nadia, she died less than 24 hours after the bite, the script was made to not give escape to the character, Damon wasn't going to die that easily because that's not what they were going to do in the season..

It didn't affect her at all, it just put her to sleep so they could reveal through the script that it's not a weakness of hers, it's the same when they snap an original's neck and they awaken faster than a regular vampire.

@Scrlk666777 I don't understand what you mean by the oak being a divine weapon, the ash was just mixed into Jen's spear with Jen's magic which ended up working to kill Ken, that's all, the white oak can't affect Hope Mikaelson, she was not created by Esther's spell, if even Klaus' daggers don't work on Hope, why would the white oak harm her? it's the same as saying that the common wood that kills normal vampires kills a Mikaelson, the circumstances of the Red oak being Hope's weakness were all created by nature, she wouldn't make a new weapon to affect her if the white oak could do it first , obviously has no effect on her.

I only asked if there is a possibility that Hope can overcome the weapon against her, taking away what seemed to be the gap created to kill her: the magic inside the tree not the wood itself, I had imagined that her weakness was just her final magic with a mortal being before becoming a vampire and if taking that single breach there would be no way for it to die.

Since while the situation of the tree it will not grow again, it was extinct it was the only one created, it is very unpredictable that another one will grow unless the nature replicates( in case Hope becomes a world-scale threat killing humans and causing imbalances in nature ) it or some scientist finds the ashes and uses them to create a seed, all the conditions in which the tree was made are very rare.

@Honnie2000 Not necessarily,a witch cannot create a weapon out of thin air, there has to be a loophole in the spell or a weapon created from a weakness of theirs like the 7 lines poisons in Marcel, in TVD the story told was that the only weapon was the white oak, the thorns were only created because Marcel was an upgrade to kill them, there were no more weapons created in circumstances to take away a weakness simply by creating a weapon from nothing, not even Tunde's blade could slay them or the daggers of the Five none had a killing effect, other than the white oak or the healing and spurs of Marcel's blood alone.

Yes friend I know there can be many other weapons, can create weapons with the wolf or witch blood of Hope's relatives(I'm talking about the weapon made with Hope's or Hayley's blood to stop the Hollow, or the thorns made by the Hollow that I found strange that she made it out of nothing I thought it was impossible to create weapons under these circumstances for an original), at least we've seen it done with blood, that's why I saw the tree story as a possible flaw understands? The red oak was bred that means there isn't a native tree in the wild, you see? and also by the detail of her magic as a mortal, I believed that this could be overcome and she would definitely get rid of that weapon against her if she sucked the magic from the tree or the stake, now another doubt that remained was my own question hahaha, so basically maybe there is way to create new weapons or weaknesses for Hope 😅😮😮😮.

rest in peace.

@Sayitasitis2 Is there really a way to kill an original just by channeling or absorbing it? I think it's not possible, Rebekah's case was for the use of black magic, but wasn't informed that she was going to die was that said in the Papa Tunde episode?, she would just be very exhausted and there would be no magic in her body for him to rise again if the circle of salt was not broken, in addition to the point that originals have a much stronger and more intense magic, Papa Tunde only supported the power because he was a user of black magic and in the case of siphoes they are able to absorb any magic, the witch or siphon would have to be very powerful to break immortality to that point no matter how much vampires live only with magic, there is still the possibility of her restoring herself and her body returning to the normal stage, they don't work like vampires that there is a limit to absorbing them, it is possible for the witch to die with that much dark vampire magic in her body, plus the fact that the originals can only be killed or stopped if they use the oak, the cure, or even a spell like the that Bonnie said she knew to kill Klaus are the only alternatives so far and also the Hollow itself, I'll take a look here on the Wiki about this detail because this information was vague, I'm not saying it's untrue ok? but the originals are far superior in this matter of being fully absorbed.

Look, if it's for magic transfer, it's more possible for the magic to affect her body, now if it's in the case of a normal vampire taking Marcel's serum, he will certainly become an updated original like Marcel too, now in the magic exchange from the body of an "upgraded original" to that of an original vampire or regular vampire, both types are subject to death if this is really the side effect of the magical exchange, this is a hypothesis that I imagined is not official, it could happen several situations, the more likely he is to die due to it being a magical transfer to a body that isn't fit for that kind of magic.