Wade isn't a witch, a werewolf, or a vampire, so why didn't he attack Ben like Kaleb and Ethan? I thought a "monster" was considered to be a person from any species other than the main three and Wade is a fairy. Any ideas?
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What do you mean by manipulate energy?
@JesseSs12 They weren't turned by Ken into monaters. Ben told Jed that it was their hunger for power, they probably used to much of this fire (magic) and that's why they transform.
Alaric told Hope that black magic was poisoning her mind, it could be a side effect of using it. Somewhere I read that Hope is less susceptible to black magic because she has vampire blood in her body (black magic) and the Saltzman twins may have physical side effects (e.g. vomiting) because, as we know, the gemini bloodline has some unidentified darkness in itself.
Yeah, but you said she didn't mention him, not that she didn't mention him by name. I known that she didn't said how she feels about him thats why i said it would be fun.
He was mentioned when Hope was in Limbo but it would be fun to hear more about him
@KnocknickKnock @Sean 175 Wade is Fairy not witch!
After reading all your comments, I concluded that either Wade had therapy with Emma for example at Chamber de chasse or was on a field trip with Finch. These are perhaps the two most sensible explanations.
People like I said, I never claimed Damon was a super good man and I forgave him. I understand that you want to be politically correct because it is important that there are no double standards. However, as @Sean 175 wrote, I was only talking about Lizzie and I never say Damon was okay. I understand that Lizzie was hungry and that she hurt Vardemus is understandable, but she should heal him right now. It's not that she should be better vampire just because she is a woman, but because she is from a generation where they learn to be good (thanks to the Salvatore School) and Damon did what he wanted. I understand that she is the new vampire and that's why I try to look at her behavior with a grain of salt, but it's a bit hard.
JesseSs12 I never said that Damon, Klaus and Elijah are innocent, on the contrary, I always found their bloody behavior bad.
I understand that hurting him was because vampirism but leaving him to die was her selfish choice
But she left him for dead, even as she knows vampire blood heals
Hellionolvrs, she is sired (as sire bond) to Hope because she loves her (as family) like she said in 4x09 not because gratitude (like in werewolves case)
I wanted to believe that Lizzie is good person and that she is able to be better person thanks to hard work but she is clearly awful. She hurt Vardemus and left him do die. She helped him only because it was beneficial to her. Hope can blame her actions on lack of humanity, while Lizzie does wrong things when she has humanity on. Any thoughts?
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Yeah but this isn't a point. Alaric invited Hope to school when it was already open. Hayley and Klaus didn't force Alaric but now we see retcon that he was against it.
When Alaric first met Hope in Voodoo in My Blood he said they opened school with Caroline and now in the latest episode of Legacies where Lizzie and Josie are in Alaric's mind, we see that Hope was recruiting into the school even before it opened. This should be considered an continuity error.
Also, from my perspective on the Originals, Alaric wasn't so close to Hope, he was just her headmaster and some promotional materials also said that Alaric became a father figure to Hope after her parents died. When Hope was dying of Hollow, Caroline cared much more for Hope than Alaric, as if suggesting that they had some closer relationship. When Rebekah sent her to Klaus and they talked about Hope, she seemed to have a pretty good insight into Hope's life. I know everyone will say that we haven't seen much school on the Originals, let alone Hope's relationship with her headmaster and headmistress. However, the truth is we saw more of the school vibe than in Legacies.
Honestly, I like Legacies, but in the last season of the Originals, the Salvatore School looked more like a school but in Legacies it looks more like Alaric living in a big house and has adopted a lot of kids. The best example is from the last episode, Lizzie asleep on the couch in the lobby opens the door to the police, not some random school worker or teacher. Besides, it seems strange to me that someone is knocking to school.
All in all, a school that lacks the boarding school vibe and retconed Hope's entire history at school from the separation of the Mikaelsons to Legacies Season 1 (including Hope's relationship with Caroline, with other students and when she began attending there).
Tommy,Klaus&Kol2012+, For me, it's strange because we've already seen that MG has a ripper tendency and suddenly, without any learning about self-control, he can be around humans. Stefan had problems with his bloodlust when he started feeding on human blood again. And the MG just stopped having.
It would be different if like Dorian said, the teachers suspected that he might be a ripper because of his character, but he never drank human blood, then they would have to actually wait to see, but we've already seen it. That's why I don't know how MG learned to self control so quickly.
Agree, I forgot to add that like I said it would be easy to fix hero arc but it was supposed to be a show about supernatural boarding school, not a show about supernatural heroes.
ElaenaOriginal, I also respect your opinion.
1) He's not doing anything interesting, but when he does the hero's thing it is very uninteresting because of his intetntions to be good to be respected.
2) There is a bit of a difference because he told him to confront his father who was supposed to have different principles and not respect that MG became a vampire and make a career on his death. He didn't tell him to talk to his father, who doesn't know he's still alive.
5) I have the impression that MG only helps to be a superhero, while Lizzie (in season 1) is more selfless even when posing as the leader / star of the team. The MG, on the other hand, makes a spectacle of himself, such as when they fight the Triad. Because her first thought in the moment of danger is to save others, for example situation with the Gargoyle.
6) I never said he forced Kaleb into friendship. However, in my experience, people who are your friends because you are popular or have something cool are not true friends. Because they accept you not for your but because you are popular and everyone wants to hang out with you and they want to be among the "elite" even though you may not be their friendship type.
Sean 175 and Tommy,Klaus&Kol2012+, I agree with you both. I don't understand why they need pseudo superheroes theme. Initially, when the MG discussed the hero thing with Nia, Kaleb, Lizzie etc. I thought it would just be that it would just inspire him to do good but in such a normal way without the costumes. I think they could leave that he wanted to try to help others with Ethan because it's like an introduction to his helping story arc that he started but then I think they should limit it to just mentioning that for e.g. "MG is out there helping with something" or "MG last night helped to extinguish the fire " or " during the summer, MG helped to put in jail the gang but until there isn't a story for e.g. that one of the victims saw MG's abilites and decided to find him, I think that they should stop to show random rescue actions of MG and Kaleb that do not contribute anything to the plot.
I think the ripper plot is better. Because as Sean said, it would be cool to see MG try to hold back his desire to kill and to see his whole process of struggling with it and his work on it. You know his "learning" over some aspect of his vampirism.
So I will come back in the end to the things with heroes. I'm not saying that it couldn't be done well. It could be done just by trying to help when they can without costumes (as I said before) or in such a way that the Super Squad is called into Supernatural cases by different communities (a bit like in 1x10 with Mikaelson Boarding School Hope, Kaleb, Jed and Pedro). Because I honestly didn't mind Ethan and MG hero thing even when I knew they were planning the costumes. It started to annoy me the most when the costumes came to the superhero thing. And since there are no superheroes in TVDU, wearing costumes seems idiotic to me, especially as nobody sees them.
For me, MG is a terrible character. He's boring, self-righteous and rude.
Some examples:
-he doesn't do anything and always whining
-when he blame Landon for his fathers believes
-when he said to Wade that "Just because I read comics books doesn't mean I have no dignity at all." He was jerk to him and he basically told him that he had no dignity but letter have a nerve behave as victim to Jed: "Jed, that's not my job to make you feel better about being a jerk." His behavior was as awfull as Jed and even worse because he hadn't had remorse and never apologize Wade.
-when Hope saved him when he was beaten by Rafael but he hide ascendent wich could save Landon (I understand his motives but if everyone know that ascendent wasn't destroyed they can create another solution.)
-He only help to by a hero not to doing something good, even Lizzie helps more selfless. She wanted to protect her little classmate Pedro and entire school even if she hurts in the process.
-when he go after something "popular": pretty witch Lizzie Saltzman or popular among vampire students Kaleb. He always have to be friends with people who are being consider special. (maybe this is exaggerated but I started thinking about it when he easy dumped Ethan and he started partnerships hero something with Kaleb, btw Kaleb was awsome but MG was again feeling to help only to feel "special" and hero.
I've been thinking about origin of werewolf species lately and came to some conclusions / theories. Jackson said his and the Hayley's families were at beginning of the werewolf race. I thought about it why was only this two since there was seven lines? I figured maybe Jackson family was from Hollow father's tribe and Hayley's was from her mother's tribe. It seems to me that it was suggested from the beginning that Hollow's father wasn't related to the Labonair family. Therefore, he must have died or walk away from Inadu's mother.
I have also heard many times that there couldn't be seven strains of werewolf venom since the seven original packs were marrying into another to possess the same abilites.However, it seems to me that you can just be one of the seven werewolves. So if a Malraux wolf will have a child with a Crescent wolf then the child can either be one or the other and not a Malraux-Crescent wolf. Thats why there are still sevens strains of werewolf venom.
The last theory is about why there are four bones and four elders but seven lines. I think three different bloodlines took bones: Apisi (Lockwood's), family from Papa Tunde's Blade (maybe Guerrera), Del Robles and three different spelled the ax: ancestor of Ansel and Klaus, Malraux ancestor and maybe Jackson's ancestor. Whereas the ancestors of the Labonair family spelled the ax and also took bone to protect.
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