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{{Relationship|name = Isobel and John
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|name = Isobel and John
||nickname(s) = Jisobel, Jobel, Isohn.
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|nickname(s) = Jisobel, Jobel, Isohn
|intimacy levels = Former Lovers, Parents; Partners in crime
 
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|intimacy levels = Exes, Sexual, They were the biological parents of [[Elena Gilbert]]; They were in love many years ago, They both agreed to give Elena up for [[Gilbert Family|adoption]]; Frenemies, Former Allies; Were Partners in crime, John cared about Isobel, Isobel was mostly just using John.
|first met = 1990-1991
 
|started dating = 1990-1991
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|first met = [[Timeline|1990-1991]]
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|started dating = [[Timeline|1990-1991]]
|status = Frenemies, Parents, (Both are deceased)|image = Jkhgfdxsz-.jpg}}
 
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|status = Exes, Frenemies, Former Allies; Ended <small>(Both are dead)</small>
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|image = Jkhgfdxsz-.jpg}}
   
{{Template:Character Quote|You know, I first met Isobel when I was a teenager. I fell in love with her instantly, although I'm pretty sure she never loved me. She was special. Part of why I hate vampires so much is because of what she became. How it ruined her. And I never would've sent her to Damon had I known she wanted to turn. It's my fault. I'm telling you this because I hoped maybe you'd understand.|[[John Gilbert]] about [[Isobel Flemming]] to [[Elena Gilbert]]}}
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{{Character Quote|You know, I first met Isobel when I was a teenager. I fell in love with her instantly, although I'm pretty sure she never loved me. She was special. Part of why I hate vampires so much is because of what she became. How it ruined her. And I never would've sent her to Damon had I known she wanted to turn. It's my fault. I'm telling you this because I hoped maybe you'd understand.|[[John Gilbert]] about [[Isobel Flemming]] to [[Elena Gilbert]]}}
 
'''The relationship between the [[human]], [[John Gilbert]] and the [[vampire]] [[Isobel Flemming]].'''
   
 
The two used to be in love long before Isobel left [[Mystic Falls]]. Together, they share a daughter, [[Elena Gilbert]], who Isobel gave up only a few days after she was born.
'''The relationship between [[John Gilbert]] and [[Isobel Flemming]].'''
 
 
They used to be in love before Isobel left [[Mystic Falls]]. They share a daughter together, [[Elena Gilbert]].
 
   
 
==Early life==
 
==Early life==
 
 
When they were in high school, John and Isobel dated and slept together. This relationship resulted in a child, Elena, who was delivered by John's brother, [[Grayson Gilbert]]. No one knew who the real father was at the time.
 
When they were in high school, John and Isobel dated and slept together. This relationship resulted in a child, Elena, who was delivered by John's brother, [[Grayson Gilbert]]. No one knew who the real father was at the time.
   
At some point, John told Isobel about [[vampires]], which became something that she started to obsess over. He also gave her his Gilbert ring, because he wanted to protect her from the supernatural.
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At some point, John told Isobel about [[vampire]]s, which became something that she started to obsess over. He also gave her his Gilbert ring, because he wanted to protect her from the supernatural.
   
 
Finally, in 2007, Isobel expressed a desire to meet a vampire, and he sent her to [[Damon Salvatore]]. He did not know of her true motives, and later confessed to Katherine (believing her to be Elena) that had he known that she wanted to turn, he would never have sent her to Damon in the first place. John also admitted that part of the reason why he hates vampires is because of how becoming a vampire changed Isobel.
 
Finally, in 2007, Isobel expressed a desire to meet a vampire, and he sent her to [[Damon Salvatore]]. He did not know of her true motives, and later confessed to Katherine (believing her to be Elena) that had he known that she wanted to turn, he would never have sent her to Damon in the first place. John also admitted that part of the reason why he hates vampires is because of how becoming a vampire changed Isobel.
   
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==Throughout The Vampire Diaries Series==
==Season 1==
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===[[Season One]]===
In season 1, it was revealed that [[Isobel Flemming|Isobel ]]and [[John Gilbert|John ]]met when they were teenagers. While John fell in love with Isobel, she never felt the same about him in return. However, she was interested in John's knowledge about supernatural creatures, and therefore she stayed with him. They soon began a sexual relationship, which eventually led to Isobel getting pregnant with John's child. She gave birth to their [[Elena Gilbert|daughter ]]and, thanks to John, Isobel was able to deliver the baby in the hands of Grayson Gilbert, John's brother and a doctor who was unaware that John was the father. According to John himself, he was with Isobel during the delivery, and he later told Elena how heart-broken she had been while giving birth. Isobel decided to give up the baby because she and John were simply too young to take care of it themselves. Grayson and his wife, Miranda, who had been unsuccessful at having a child of their own, decided to adopt the child after Isobel ran off, and ultimately became Elena's adoptive parents. 
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In season 1, it was revealed that [[Isobel Flemming|Isobel]] and [[John Gilbert|John]] met when they were teenagers. While John fell in love with Isobel, she never felt the same about him in return. However, she was interested in John's knowledge about supernatural creatures, and therefore she stayed with him. They soon began a sexual relationship, which eventually led to Isobel getting pregnant with John's child. She gave birth to their [[Elena Gilbert|daughter]] and thanks to John, Isobel was able to deliver the baby in the hands of Grayson Gilbert, John's brother and a doctor who was unaware that John was the father. According to John himself, he was with Isobel during the delivery, and he later told Elena how heart-broken she had been while giving birth. Isobel decided to give up the baby because she and John were simply too young to take care of it themselves. Grayson and his wife, Miranda, who had been unsuccessful at having a child of their own, decided to adopt the child after Isobel ran off, and ultimately became Elena's adoptive parents. 
   
 
John and Isobel's relationship didn't continue after the birth of their daughter Elena, and they instead went different ways and chose different lifestyles. While Isobel started studying supernatural creatures at Duke University, John had a very disdainful attitude towards vampires. This attitude only intensified after Isobel herself became a vampire in 2007, because he hated how much being a vampire had changed her from the woman he once loved. Once Isobel turned, the only thing she and John had in common was the desire to keep Elena protected from the supernatural world, especially where [[Stefan Salvatore|Stefan]] and [[Damon Salvatore]] were concerned. 
 
John and Isobel's relationship didn't continue after the birth of their daughter Elena, and they instead went different ways and chose different lifestyles. While Isobel started studying supernatural creatures at Duke University, John had a very disdainful attitude towards vampires. This attitude only intensified after Isobel herself became a vampire in 2007, because he hated how much being a vampire had changed her from the woman he once loved. Once Isobel turned, the only thing she and John had in common was the desire to keep Elena protected from the supernatural world, especially where [[Stefan Salvatore|Stefan]] and [[Damon Salvatore]] were concerned. 
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While Isobel was married to [[Alaric Saltzman]] prior to being turned, she never told him about her past with Elena or John.
 
While Isobel was married to [[Alaric Saltzman]] prior to being turned, she never told him about her past with Elena or John.
   
==Season 2==
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===[[Season Two]]===
When Isobel died in [[Know Thy Enemy|''Know Thy Enemy'']], it was never revealed how John handled it, although it could be assumed that he didn't really care; it was likely that the Isobel he knew so well in his teens was too different from the vampire Isobel that she had become for him to still have strong feelings for her.
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When Isobel died in ''[[Know Thy Enemy]]'', it was never revealed how John handled it, although it could be assumed that he didn't really care; it was likely that the Isobel he knew so well in his teens was too different from the vampire Isobel that she had become for him to still have strong feelings for her.
   
 
==Gallery==
 
==Gallery==
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==Quotes==
 
==Quotes==
 
 
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|"You know I first met Isobel when I was a teenager. I fell in love with her instantly, although I`m pretty sure she never loved me. She was special. Part of why I hate vampires so much is because of what she became. How it ruined her. And I never would`ve sent her to Damon had I known she wanted to turn. It`s my fault. I`m telling you this because I hope maybe you`d understand."
 
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"I asked John for a do-over."
 
"I asked John for a do-over."
   
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*They share a mutual hate for the Salvatore brothers, Damon and Stefan.
 
*They share a mutual hate for the Salvatore brothers, Damon and Stefan.
 
**They wanted both of [[Stefan and Damon|them]] out of their [[Elena Gilbert|daughter]]'s life.
 
**They wanted both of [[Stefan and Damon|them]] out of their [[Elena Gilbert|daughter]]'s life.
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*They were working for [[Katerina Petrova|Katherine Pierce]].
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**Isobel, however, was much closer to Katherine than John.
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*They met when they were teenagers and had [[Elena Gilbert|their daughter]].
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*John was present with Isobel during Elena's birth.
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*Isobel referred to John as "a teenage waste of space," implying she did not love him at all despite having [[Elena Gilbert|a child]] with him.
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*John brought Isobel to his brother [[Grayson Gilbert|Grayson]] when they learned she was pregnant.
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*John was the one who sent her to [[Damon Salvatore|Damon]], making him indirectly responsible for her transformation.
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**As a result, he did not approve of her new vampirism and felt regret for causing it.
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*John loved Isobel deeply, referring to her as the "first girl I ever loved."
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*Both were introduced in [[Season One|season one]], and both died in [[Season Two|season two]].
   
 
==See also==
 
==See also==

Revision as of 02:48, 15 April 2020


You know, I first met Isobel when I was a teenager. I fell in love with her instantly, although I'm pretty sure she never loved me. She was special. Part of why I hate vampires so much is because of what she became. How it ruined her. And I never would've sent her to Damon had I known she wanted to turn. It's my fault. I'm telling you this because I hoped maybe you'd understand.

The relationship between the human, John Gilbert and the vampire Isobel Flemming.

The two used to be in love long before Isobel left Mystic Falls. Together, they share a daughter, Elena Gilbert, who Isobel gave up only a few days after she was born.

Early life

When they were in high school, John and Isobel dated and slept together. This relationship resulted in a child, Elena, who was delivered by John's brother, Grayson Gilbert. No one knew who the real father was at the time.

At some point, John told Isobel about vampires, which became something that she started to obsess over. He also gave her his Gilbert ring, because he wanted to protect her from the supernatural.

Finally, in 2007, Isobel expressed a desire to meet a vampire, and he sent her to Damon Salvatore. He did not know of her true motives, and later confessed to Katherine (believing her to be Elena) that had he known that she wanted to turn, he would never have sent her to Damon in the first place. John also admitted that part of the reason why he hates vampires is because of how becoming a vampire changed Isobel.

Throughout The Vampire Diaries Series

Season One

In season 1, it was revealed that Isobel and John met when they were teenagers. While John fell in love with Isobel, she never felt the same about him in return. However, she was interested in John's knowledge about supernatural creatures, and therefore she stayed with him. They soon began a sexual relationship, which eventually led to Isobel getting pregnant with John's child. She gave birth to their daughter and thanks to John, Isobel was able to deliver the baby in the hands of Grayson Gilbert, John's brother and a doctor who was unaware that John was the father. According to John himself, he was with Isobel during the delivery, and he later told Elena how heart-broken she had been while giving birth. Isobel decided to give up the baby because she and John were simply too young to take care of it themselves. Grayson and his wife, Miranda, who had been unsuccessful at having a child of their own, decided to adopt the child after Isobel ran off, and ultimately became Elena's adoptive parents. 

John and Isobel's relationship didn't continue after the birth of their daughter Elena, and they instead went different ways and chose different lifestyles. While Isobel started studying supernatural creatures at Duke University, John had a very disdainful attitude towards vampires. This attitude only intensified after Isobel herself became a vampire in 2007, because he hated how much being a vampire had changed her from the woman he once loved. Once Isobel turned, the only thing she and John had in common was the desire to keep Elena protected from the supernatural world, especially where Stefan and Damon Salvatore were concerned. 

While Isobel was married to Alaric Saltzman prior to being turned, she never told him about her past with Elena or John.

Season Two

When Isobel died in Know Thy Enemy, it was never revealed how John handled it, although it could be assumed that he didn't really care; it was likely that the Isobel he knew so well in his teens was too different from the vampire Isobel that she had become for him to still have strong feelings for her.

Gallery

Quotes

Isobel: "Don`t screw this up. You know what you have to do, John."

John: "I got it. I won`t fail."

Isobel: "You better not. Katherine wants all of those tomb vampires dead, and I want to add two more to that list."

John: "Let me guess."

Isobel: "Stefan and Damon. I don`t want this life for her ."

John: "That was always part of the plan. Consider them gone."

Isobel: "She`s our daughter, John. We owe that to her."

John: "I know."

Season 1, Episode 21 - Isobel


Elena: "Who`s my father?"

Isobel: "Not important. He was a teenage waste of space."

Season 1, Episode 21 - Isobel


"You know I first met Isobel when I was a teenager. I fell in love with her instantly, although I`m pretty sure she never loved me. She was special. Part of why I hate vampires so much is because of what she became. How it ruined her. And I never would`ve sent her to Damon had I known she wanted to turn. It`s my fault. I`m telling you this because I hope maybe you`d understand."
John Gilbert, Season 1, Episode 22 - Founder's Day
"I might have mentioned that you haven`t been really honest about your dead wife ."

John Gilbert to Alaric Saltzman, Season 2, Episode 15 - The Dinner Party


"I asked John for a do-over."

Isobel Flemming, Season 2, Episode 17 -Know Thy Enemy


“I always knew that she and Katherine were close, but I never realized that Isobel and her were working against me. Two of the world’s most uncaring and selfish vampires, and yet they were genuinely friends.”

John Gilbert, Season 2, Episode 17 -Know Thy Enemy


Elena: "If that's what you thought of her , why did you ever put your trust in her at all?"

John: "Because I was there when she gave birth to you, Elena. I saw how heartbroken she was to give you up. And, because she was the first girl I ever loved. And when she said she'd help keep you safe, I believed her." 

Season 2, Episode 17 - Know Thy Enemy

Trivia

  • They share a mutual hate for the Salvatore brothers, Damon and Stefan.
  • They were working for Katherine Pierce.
    • Isobel, however, was much closer to Katherine than John.
  • They met when they were teenagers and had their daughter.
  • John was present with Isobel during Elena's birth.
  • Isobel referred to John as "a teenage waste of space," implying she did not love him at all despite having a child with him.
  • John brought Isobel to his brother Grayson when they learned she was pregnant.
  • John was the one who sent her to Damon, making him indirectly responsible for her transformation.
    • As a result, he did not approve of her new vampirism and felt regret for causing it.
  • John loved Isobel deeply, referring to her as the "first girl I ever loved."
  • Both were introduced in season one, and both died in season two.

See also

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