Hello, Athena. I'm sorry if I caused any kind of trouble on the history repeating episode page. I was just formatting it the way other episodes pages are. Every page has the antagonists linked to antagonists page. Can you please re add the link? And please delete Alaric's name? In the recurring cast? His name is already in the special guest star section.
It's alright, mistakes happen. Thank you for letting me know. Please fix it when you can. Antagonists link needs to be readded and Alaric's name needs to be deleted in the recurring cast section, hope all is well with you, Merry Christmas :)
Thank you very much. And thanks for adding the antagonists link back. If it's ok. May I please delete Alaric's name in the recurring section? His name doesn't belong there and no need to see his name twice in the cast section.
That's good. How is school going? Hope everything is ok and not too hard or complicated. I'm doing good thank you for asking. Been kinda busy with work. With the bad weather I'm afraid to leave the house. I'm liking it as well. Lots of twists and turns and the monsters are freaky. Some of the scenes remind me of scary movies. I'm soo happy it was renewed for a second season. Thank you soo much for all of your hard work/help here lately.
Ugh, the cold weather’s been terrible lately where I’m from. We got snow the other day and car traffic has just been chaos, lol. And I’m liking the monsters on Legacies too! I’m particularly fond of the Necromancer and his humor, lol XD . Maybe they’ll introduce new twists for the 2nd season; I’m glad it was renewed! And aww, you’re welcome! Thank you too! You’re a big help around this wiki too!
Same here. It's been driving me crazy. It's been soo cold I couldn't leave the house for two days. That's terrible. Hope you are ok. Im done with the snow and cold weather. Soo glad it's already February. Hope you will get some nicer weather. The necromacer was awesome. Yes he was soo funny. Loved his humor and mannerisms. I'm hoping as well. Hopefully some tvd/to characters will return. Thank you and you are welcome :) just doing my best to make sure everything is going ok here.
What do you think about Rafael possibly having feelings for Hope? I always thought him and Josie would get together. After their kiss when they dealt with that spider I was rooting for them. I like Josie, I can't stand Lizzie. She is rude, obnoxious and very annoying. What do you think about Lizzie?
Raf and Hope would be interesting, but Landon and Hope are kinda cute together so I’m not sure about Hope lol. I liked Josie and Rafael at first, but after he slept with Lizzie, I don’t think their relationship could be built on complete trust for awhile. I want to like Lizzie, but she’s selfish and like you said, annoying, lol. This upcoming episode only proves this; Lizzie could wish for the health of loved ones, but “let’s get rid of Hope!” and “let’s get rid of the Salvatore school!” I read the synopsis/quotes just now, coincidentally. Lizzie is a thorn in your side you can’t get rid of.
Sorry just seeing your message now. I agree with you. This whole thing seems weird. Because I really like Hope and Landon. But Rafael is awesome. I want to see him happy. That was weird. Came out of nowhere. I didn't like that at all. I closed my eyes and said ewww when Lizzie and Rafael slept together. I'm trying to as well. But my dislike for her is getting stronger. The next episode proves she only cares about herself. Getting rid of the thing that keeps her family happy (the Salvatore school) and Hope. She has some kind of a grudge against. And yes she's like a big thorn that just won't go away. She made it clear she doesn't care about Josie's feelings. I feel bad for Josie.
Josie doesn’t deserve to be treated like that. I have a feeling if Lizzie wasn’t Josie’s sister, she would treat her like anyone else. Like garbage. I’m not a big fan of MG due to how underused he is as a character, but I felt bad for him after Lizzie pushed him aside at her sweet sixteen. And me too, I cringed when I saw Rafael and Lizzie become a brief thing. Honestly, the romances could go any way on this show from what I’ve seen, lol. I guess we’ll see where the stories take us fans.
Josie is awesome. Soo nice, and cares about others. And very good point. If they weren't sisters. Lizzie would be a lot meaner and cruel. And yes like garbage. I can understand that MG is a pretty cool guy. But yeah we don't see much of what his character is like. And now that we have learned he is a ripper. That was horrible, he was trying to get Lizzie's attention. He was trying to show her how much he likes her and cares for her. Then Rafael came along and Lizzie's like Mg bye bye. Get lost. It was soo random and unnecessary. Like why would the writers try to push a lame romance on us? Two characters that have no chemistry and haven't spoken much at all. Yep guess we are gonna have to see where the show/stories go. Like the direction. I hope we get less of Lizzie. Is it bad that the last few episodes without Lizzie have been my favorite?
It’s not bad at all, lol. The last 3 episodes without Lizzie have been the best for me too! The break from her offered a fresh breath of good plot. Suddenly, we’re thrown into a Lizzie-centric episode and everything goes to you-know-what. Penelope was right about her in one episode about her being a black hole. I’d be happy with just Josie around; Lizzie is just a waste of potential imo. And the romance get more random with Rafael. Now he’s in a love square? Lmaoo it’ll be Penelope or Emma next he’s got feelings for. I love his character besides the wacky romances though.
Thanks for agreeing with me Athena :) And yes we had a nice breath of fresh air without her. Best feeling ever when she isn't around and doesn't speak much. And yes I agree. The second Lizzie started complaining about everything. I'm like well this is gonna be a long episode. It was a great episode. But all about Lizzie and her constanly whining, complaining and other stuff. I was like shut up already Lizzie. Right now I'm really starting to like Penelope. She has no problem telling off Lizzie. When she blew that sleeping powder in Lizzie's face I was like it's about time. Rafael is awesome :) and yes feels like the romance with him is soo random. If he develops feelings for Emma or Penelope I will laugh. And I probably won't be that suprised as well.
hopefully this year, we can start on that fantasy novel, its just im so frustrated on what to write, like i kinda got a story and characters but im trying to base things as it should/would be in reality, if you may have noticed, I have asked magic based questions on this wikia so I can get a better understanding.
I have a quick question about something so for some reason one of the administrators keep editing my discussions and they are relevant to tvd to and l and I don’t see why y’all keep editing my things I just know why so I can stop making whatever mistake I’m making so I can stop
Hello, Since Athena isn't around at the moment, I'll answer.
Relationship articles are not being created anymore. There is a large volume of them that have been abandoned and attempting to be merged. Individual relationships can be placed on their individual articles, as long as it follows the format.
karen, do you know of any new ideas I could use for my sci fi story? The one idea i have and its more of like, okay im pipe dreaming for a moment but lets say this story does get made and onto dvd or blu ray, perhaps this could be used for a bonus extra, but to expand upon the characters hobbies and personalities cause idk if you ever saw some of my earlier tvd/TO comments but im like how the heck are we supposed to identity with a bunch of killers and vampires?, its nearly impossible to do unless we're given insight into their minds and how they think, u know what I mean?
Maybe give them an origin story and a fictional-historic plot. For example, a universe where humans and vampires know of each other. An ancient war maybe that’s pitted both species against each other, but more human atrocities against vampires happen than vamps against humans. Something like this could give readers/viewers the incentive to feel sympathy for vampires in your universe.
karen, since no one shown up at the live chat, im just going to cancel it, maybe for the finale or series finale if it maybe i will do it since it will be the end of an era of vampire diaries cause something is telling me JP doesnt plan on commissioning a 4th series
cause i believe u were the only one who said you'd try to make it to the live chat
I know what you mean. I was on mobile and saw the vandalizing and couldn't get to the Quick Tools quick enough lol. Thank you WHAM code XD (That was actually the first time I had to use it for vandalism and it worked perfectly!)
Anyways to answer your post from the other message, it's been good. Congratulations! Senior year flies by (at least it did for me). That's good to hear, a milestone, indeed! I'm actually done with the science classes in terms of my major, just taking a class to get letter grade to complete Master's requirement and I hope to graduate next spring too.
Congrats! I wish I was getting my masters; I still need 2 more years of school for that, lol. What are you intending to pursue outside of school once you graduate? Speaking of, we’re so close to graduation XD ! I hope it flies by; I’m taking advanced music classes and they’re already driving me nuts, lol. I’m taking a 4-semester program of music history and I’m in 3/4. Let’s just say the first day I already had 3 hours of homework, fun! XD
I completely missed this XD. Btw, I really like your new profile image. It really fits with the a.k.a. "Devil Goddess". XD
Still figuring it out, I guess. In the short term I'll probably stay with what I'm doing which is just research and then maybe move into R&D or just see if I can get a gov. job doing something similar. Right now I just want to graduate and not have "school" to think about for a while.
I'm sure it will. The fall always seems to fly by the fastest for me because that's usually when my semesters are the busiest so December and Christmas break will be here before we know it. Ugh.. I'm definitely not a history person, so more power to you. Cannot even imagine spending that much time on history XD Good Luck!! I just have a paper to write and attend class, it's pretty chill. Outside of that, I'll just be writing for my thesis.
Thank you! I felt it was time for a change after having the same profile pic of about a year XD . Also, thanks for helping me out with that user earlier. I don’t know what’s so hard about creating their own wiki vs. not and following the rules on this one.
Also, I hope school flies by this semester. Fall isn’t so quick for me, lol. Two weeks in and I already have to arrange a 4 string (meaning violins, etc.) sonata for one of my classes. I can’t wait till winter break now! XD
(: I've gotten into changing my image like once every month or two, though I'm really feeling my current one. I did notice however, that Kat has since changed her IG pic to the one of her that I'm using, though my is cropped for convenience with FANDOM XD. No worries. I wasn't sure when you'd be back on and I noticed it earlier this morning and thought I should follow it in case if it escalated. I've only been getting on FANDOM like once or twice and only really responding to message if my attention is needed or making small edits here and there. Their behavior was uncalled for and rude and considering you explained it twice, no less, they probably won't listen. But who knows, benefit of doubt and what not.
Me too. I took music classes like in HS, but nothing any further. It sounds like something I'd struggle with though XD. I wouldn't even know how to explain that tbh. So far so good for me, just have to write a short (thankfully) paper for my class while I write for my thesis, so... you know just no large amounts of free time or fun. I'll only allot like 4 hours of tv a week or something. Legacies, Charmed, Chilling Adventure of Sabrina (Netflix so I can binge), and AHS: Apocalypse. Did you ever get into the AHS series? Cut out the DC stuff and most of the 'new' stuff. probably skip over SPN unless I like how an episode sounds.
Legacies, Charmed, and maybe Supergirl (if done right and if I like the premiere) are the ones I definitely wanna watch. I might do the same with Sabrina. And I hadn’t even heard of AHS until like it’s 3rd season and I just never got around to watching the show XD . I might just watch Freakshow; that season really interested me but I never got a chance to binge-watch it.
I’m also watching this new show called Siren; I may have told you about it awhile ago, I forget, lol. It’s okay plot-wise, some romantic stuff, but they really go into the mythology of the mermaids (it’s a dark-ish history plot, which I like lol). Overall, it’s a pretty limited year for supernatural-themed shows imo. The DC heroes shows really dominated (and continue to do so) the CW for the past several years, unfortunately. And none of them interest me anymore, except DC’s Legends (especially last season).
Edit: What did you think of the Charmed premiere? I just finished it, lol. Let me know what you thought! :D
i have some fairly sad news, due to certain personal reasons, Im dropping out of the story we were writing on but I will be happy to have your help if I ever need it for another story I'm working on, next time though I'll be more prepared though and we'll communicate via email.
this is basically what I told john as he may help as well:
this is my story:
sypnosis-Judas Iscariot is let out of hell to redeem himself after satan is murdered, the whole timeline of the bible becomes dislodged and Judas must take it upon himself to find the killer and fix the timeline. He only has 1 shot and he uses his new angelic powers to fight demonkind while finding the killer.
here are the first 2 chapters I wrote for references to help u:
Judas-I am still in hell, for 2000 years I have been trapped in this hellish cage. But I deserve it. For what I did, I betrayed humanity, I betrayed my closest friend. I learned english over time, because I heard the screams of the thousands if not millions of people who ended up here, they all yelled and asked God to let them out, but he never did. He isnt a cruel god, he is a forgiving one but these people marked their fates, including myself. I deserve this, I keep telling myself this. I've lost count of how many days I have been here, Im not one of those people who marks their days over the wall with like a knife or piece of chalk. There is no reason to in my opinion. But I have learned to overcome the burning, maybe I'm the only one immune to this pain by now. Maybe there are more who are immune to the pain, I really don't know and I really don't care at this point. But I will never be immune to the mental pain, its scarring deep to the minds eye and have blinded it to the point where I don't want to imagine things anymore to make me feel better. It's just another day. Or at least it was. A rumbling from overhead hits like a nuclear bomb, yeah I know about those too, I hear alot from the people down here. But it hits and shakes and parts of hell start to crumble apart. I think to myself can this be it? Can this be the day it all ends? But again it makes no difference to me at this point cause the hellfire is just part of me now. It does nothing. But it would still be nice to have a change of atmosphere and still use my senses to feel again if the fire hasnt burned it away. But I look at a bright light above my cell and down comes....an angelic figure, I never saw the angels to be honest. But the angelic being fights off tons of satans minions, banishing them into thick darkness. He does it like its nothing. He then approaches my cell. I think to myself, what could this guy do that hasnt already been done? Make me feel even worse about myself? He then uses a form of telekinesis I suppose to break apart the cell door. He then demands I walk out. He says we need to talk.
Scene 2 I don't want to walk out at first cause this guy is a stranger to me. But he still demands I walk out and approach him. I ask who he is. Gabriel-My name is gabriel, I am an angel, and one of a dying breed, we're getting picked apart from a mysterious killer. Sighs....and we need your help. Judas-What?, my help?, I ask why? Gabriel-Because you're immune to hellfire, you can fight off demons and survive, especially when I give you these powers. Judas-Wait, what powers? Gabriel then telekinetically drags him over and puts his glowing hand on Judas's chest. Judas-Wait!, what is that?, what is it? Gabriel-Quiet!, he demands. I think to myself, I have felt burning before but not like this, this hurts 1000 times more than hellfire burning but its refreshing at the same time, cause I feel power coming into me, something I have never had, not really. Gabriel-It's done, as he releases his hand off my chest. Judas-What's done?, what was that? Gabriel-I just gave you some of my abilities, you have telekinesis which as you saw, you can move things with your mind, I gave you teleportation which allows you to travel anywhere in time and space. Telepathy which allows you to read and to an extent control the minds of any being you desire. And finally semi immortality. Judas-Semi immortality? Gabriel-Yes, you can still be destroyed by certain methods. Or you can do this job for us and ascend onto heaven. Judas-And if I say no? Gabriel-Then you will be kept in here forever but as far as I am concerned, you don't really have a choice. Judas-So what, is this my destiny?, my purpose? Gabriel-No, not really, you're just a lackie to a greater purpose. Judas-Which is what exactly? Gabriel-Okay look, the devil, the reason you haven't seen him lately, he's dead. Judas-Dead?, how is that possible? Gabriel-His body was discovered, right over there, but his body was moved by his minions. Judas-Isn't that a good thing? Gabriel-No...because it goes against what the bible planned and laid out. Satan was supposed to be stopped in the end, but not now, we don't understand what is happening. We need you to find the killer and kill them before they go any further and find satan and send him back to hell. And you'll be tracking down all of satans minions who are freed from hell because of the hole I punched. We simply do not have the resources anymore to track down these abominations. But you must find which one of them is behind this all because none of it stems from our garrison. Judas-If that is the case, why didnt you get information from those demons you slayed? Gabriel-I read their minds, they offered nothing of use. But the others might have. Judas-But how am I suppose to do all of that? Gabriel-Not our problem. Judas-Our? Gabriel-The angels and I. So you will be sent back to earth, and its changed alot. Judas-I know many things. Gabriel-Perhaps, but you will have to learn to be born again, in the true sense of the word. Gabriel then sends me to earth. Gabriel-Just so you know, money, food and even technology have all changed, you must adapt....or perish. Judas-You're not going to be of any help? Gabriel-I've helped enough, it's time for you to prove yourself. Do these 3 things for heaven and you will be greatly rewarded. Do the opposite and its back into the hellhole, and when I say sent back, I mean back into the deepest darkest loneliest parts of hell, with nothing but your troubled and regretful thoughts....forever. Judas-But... Gabriel-No more of that! One final thing, you'll need a weapon. Pick and choose. Gabriel then throws a box full of weapons to me. I look through them and see a particular one. I cannot even describe it. Gabriel calls it a gun. He says it shoots out bullets, which are blunt objects but can cut through nearly anything like a sword. I choose the gun. Gabriel says however those bullets won't work on demons. I need specific bullets. Judas-I think I know what I can use. It's the only thing besides my clothes that were thrown into hell with me. It's a few silver dollars. Gabriel then looks over and blesses them with angelic power. Gabriel-Now you are prepared, you are ready. Gabriel then walks away. Judas-Wait!, I have one condition on all of this. Gabriel-You're in no position to make your own demands. Judas-I clearly am, otherwise you wouldn't need me. Gabriel (in an angry voice)-What is it? Judas-When I find these demons, I cant just send them back to hell, they could escape, so I am going to take them out my way, I'm going to give them a second chance and wipe their minds of all the evil they've done. If I am getting a 2nd chance, so should they. Gabriel-That is an abomination and goes against everything the bible states. You're not allowed to do it, that is your first and only warning. The second you do it, you're sent back to hell. Gabriel then dissapears. Unbeknownce to him, I am going to betray yet another friend, if I can even call him that. I am going to banish the evil from these monsters and give them the 2nd chance we all deserve.
I need help creating dialogue as he is to interact with a church of people that are wishy washy on helping him, some want to, some do not. Also I need him to interact with demons and other angels too.
Mostly this will be an action packed series so let me worry about the action unless u want to help in that area as well. But I need you to help me find enough dialogue for 20 chapters, this does not need to be done all at once, take as much time as u need.
My advice on introducing the church people is thru a specific person and congregation. As a person who was raised a Christian, I experienced many people in church with a tendency to remain stubborn and closed minded, but they’re also unaware of their own closed mindedness so they are mostly decent and well mannered with other people. If you’re going for a hardcore, Christian church vibe, I recommend writing the scene as if it’s Southern/Western USA. For example: Judas lands in a rural Christian town in Texas (on Earth) and these towners have southern accents (he experiences this with both awe and confusion at the change earth has underwent). The scene could focus in on a specific southern Christian church-goer. Seeing and interacting with Judas could be thru his/her experience. Let’s call him Bobby Smith for now. Mr. Smith could be a minor character set in his ways, but also wants to help Judas save the universe and planet. This minor character could be the start of a potential human following Judas gains throughout your story. The Iscariots or something like that. That’s just one suggestion.
judas iscariot-He is the main character, the anti hero and he is looking for redemption desperately. He hates destroying things and people but will if he absolutely must. Unbeknownce to gabriel the angel, he is mind controlling the demons he finds to make an army of good demons but to gabriel, this is an abomination. He wears a welders mask, only wears long sleeved t shirts, pants, coats and carries guns and knives, bathed in holy water and his own blood. He can also channel hellfire to shoot at his victims like a grenade launcher.
gabriel the angel-He is strict in the ways of angel kind and his garrison, he's alot like castiel from supernatural, the difference is you see his wings and halo and his mighty sword he carries on his back. With what few angels left, him and his brothers and sisters go searching for satan as it was gabriels idea to use judas as their pawn. He is more powerful than he looks BTW. He is nearly indestructible, especially with his angelic armor he wears. The other angels stay in the background for now. All angelic creatures such as pixies, fairies, dwarves, elves, dragons, holy witches/superheroes, and other holy creatures derive from angels
leonardo thomas-the oldest of vampires, similar to klaus in appearance and the way he acts, except he doesnt have a vampire family but rather the biggest army of vampire minions the world has ever seen due to his power and charisma, he is older than dracula, jesus, and judas himself. Its rumored he is old as time itself. He was freed from hell when gabriel punched a hole into it, knowing he could free abominations from it he released the deadliest creature that even satan is a bit scared of.
the church goers-
melissa-she is a warrior of god, who lost her wife due to her beliefs, she is forced into this life but will not serve as a love interest for judas or the other characters
sarah-she is melissas wife who is now deceased and seen as a ghost, its rumored she might be sucked into the black hole of nothingness if hell and heaven isnt repaired soon. She is extremely powerful with her ghostly powers.
gemma-she is a very kind person and merely the gardener of the church but she may have a vicious side underneath and is ready to use it to protect herself and her family
jenna-gemmas daughter, she is 19 and wants out of the church life, she looks to her boyfriend for comfort but her boyfriend maybe a demon working for satan or a vampire working for leonardo
metacalf-he is gemmas husband, very strict in his church goeing ways and is working for the pastor ezekiel yaegar, he is the pastors right hand man
pastor ezekiel yaegar-the owner and leader of the church, he claims his mission from god is to rid the world of its abominations but isnt a racist towards humankind, he sees himself as a noah preparing for an end of the world scenario. He is very skeptical to take judas in after finding out who he really is but the other members convince him eventually to take him in.
tons of demons got out of hell when gabriel punched that hole and the cages broke, some were already on earth, their current leader is the legendary vampire alphonse de beau who is leondardos maker and might be the oldest human to ever walk the face of the planet. His very name draws fear and the vampires will take command to him over leonardo anyday. He learned some unique powers being advanced in his old age.
the rest of the demons are all reptilian or buglike in appearance, they are fallen angels and possess humans as hosts to carry out their missions, they are afraid if they expose their true selves to humankind, the humans and angels will exterminate them all as the pureblooded demons as rare as the angels nowadays. The demonkind has bred bloodsucking vampires, flesheating zombies, horrific goblins/trolls/imps, and finally, werebeasts whose very bite can bite through steel or the toughest of bones.
i hope this helps u for now. if u need to know more, let me kno
The outline is good! I like how it’s a reminder of certain shows I’ve watched over the years, but your story still has a lot of originality in it. Let me know if you wish to incorporate more species later on.
do you have a discord? and if so what is ur username?
i ask this cause i dont want our work to be stolen by someone else. But I will incorporate more ideas into their personalities and look even if we cannot bring in new fresh original ideas, it will at least be fun to make and who knows, we may even make a couple of bucks out of this or get to be the next vampire diaries to be on television cause I envision this as a tv series rather than a film series. Judas is going to be chasing down many many many demons in his path, its too many to put into a film series.
I understand. Plagiarism is a big fear of any author/aspiring author. I myself enjoy themes like yours inside books, shows, movies, etc. It will be fun collaborating with you on a Judas-theme such as your current plot!