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Bennett Blood Mage18

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  • Landon was introduced in the Originals as human but no one has done tests on him to exclude that he may be something else. It's not like he was introduced as human who can be compelled and then in Legacies it was changed. We as viewers don't know if this was retconned or simply plotline all along.

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    • It's pretty straightforward in the cite-note and you even restate a portion of it - "Landon was introduced in the Originals as human." Now he's not. That's the definition of a retcon - a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events, typically used to facilitate a dramatic plot shift or account for an inconsistency.

      It's not the first one we've had, and it won't be the last.

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    • Ok, thanks for explanation

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  • Hi,

    Can I get an authorization to make some edits on Landon Kirby's page, like adding his first death and his first killer?

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  • Hello, 

    I wanted to come forward and discuss the existence of the "LGBT+ Characters" category as I, as a gay person myself, believe that it discriminates against LGBTQ+ people rather than supports them as there is no category for non-LGBTQ+ people. Their sexuality is only a trait that does not define them as a character. Basically: Why does a LGBT+ Characters category exist but not a "blonde characters" or "white characters", "browned eyed characters" ... I can see why some people might think the category is good because you can find LGBTQ+ easier - but then again why are they 1) grouped as one category and 2) no categories for cis, straight people? Moreover, the category has also shown to cause confusion (Rebekah, Nadia). 

    Thus, I think that the category should be deleted or categories for heterosexual, homosexual, pansexual, lesbian, bisexual, blonde, white, blue-eyed, ... At the end of the day a sexuality is nothing but yet another trait.

    (I also do not want to accuse anyone of discriminating against LGBTQ+ people but the category itself downgrades them to only being that in my opinion.) 

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    • Hello, LordStormborn,

      I'm not sure if I really know how to address this, but I'll give it a shot, as well as get additional opinions elsewhere. While the intention behind the use of the category is not discriminatory, I guess since those orientations are specifically highlighted over that of "straight/heterosexual", could be viewed as such. For background, the original category for this was created in 2012, and updated/recreated to reflect new identities in 2018 (and going forward with Legacies) - those identities being what is considered as canon/appeared on the show. Generally, I think your own assumptions are correct in its use, "you can find LGBTQ+ [characters] easier" and that's the baseline use of the category. Roughly speaking out of this community's articles, less than 4% of all "Character" articles are considered to be a LGBT+ - i.e. the other 96% is considered straight (roughly 340 articles); hence the lack of a "Straight" or "heterosexual" category. Unless noted otherwise, i.e. with the use of the LGBT category, then all other characters are heterosexual. As far as a cis gender category, it is not something addressed in this show, so a category isn't relevant for our community. Other TV shows, perhaps; or if addressed later in Legacies. Specifically, categories for FANDOM are used and meant to better group pages with similar themes and yet be relevant for use by the community. Having individual categories with only one or two characters isn't a typical occurrence, thus the grouping as a whole. Like articles, categories are created based on relevancy. For our community, having a "browned eyed characters" category provides no relevancy for the content of the show. I don't proclaim to know structures of every wiki community, but I don't think I've ever seen a community with such specific categories, though LGBTQ+ is a common occurrence among shows with such representations.

      So while I don't see the category being inherently bad, I don't see the need to delete it either and use individual categories with the inclusion of a Heterosexual category for the other 300+ character pages.


      With that said, I think having additional input from either Alaric or Original Authority, our community's bureaucrats, would be beneficial here. Or any of the other active admins (or mods), which I think is just Athena.

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    • I do totally understand that it discriminatory is not the intention behind the category. As for browned eyed characters, etc. I was just going off the rails to underline how little sense the LGBTQ+ category makes in my opinion. 

      "the other 96% is considered straight (roughly 340 articles)" I think that comment itself is wrongful and does not make sense as it is simply wrong to assume a character is straight (or cisgender) without confirmation. Characters should be considered neither until any affection is shown to a specific gender (however, even then we cannot assume for sure what sexuality a character has. Let's take Hope as an example: She has only shown affection towards men on (canon universe) screen however, we can never know for sure if she is not bisexual, etc. - Or let's take Freya we do not know what she identifies as: whether it is bisexual, pansexual, queer, etc. as that was never adressed in the show). Sexuality should always be considered fluid and thus I do not think that there is any need for an LGBT page.

      I don't think that there should be a heterosexual category either (again that was just me going off the rails) just as much as I think that there shouldn't be a LGBT category.

      As for the LGBT category being a comman occurence on FANDOM wikis I have to agree but I think that they are just unnecessary there as they are here.

      Thank you so much for taking time to listen to my concers!

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      Should I contact them about this matter or do you want to do that? 

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    • My comment is based in mathematics. Only 4% of character articles are considered as LGBTQ - a means of finding a small subset of articles of similar identification with a specific category. The remaining 96% falls from that category and does not pertain to it - characters are only added to it unless otherwise state/shown/or proven as canon. Hope is considered straight until otherwise proven different. Freya, in terms of the show, is bisexual.

      Considering a category was created years ago, and the general use for a category is (typically) defined as necessary - its usefulness, imo, remains true.

      I do find that this message seems a bit random... the category predate your time here by approximately four years and the category/show is going on ten years old - why now is this an "issue" or a concern. Why haven't you addressed this with the bureaucrats prior to now (I assume you messaged me because I'm active)? I mean I guess these are rhetorical questions in nature, but I don't see in harm in keeping the category. I mean it is a simple fact and their sexuality is addressed both on their respective articles and as a category as a whole (the category being grouped as such is explained why in the previous message) just like vampires are vampires and humans are humans. They're relevant, searched categories and used when appropriate. It's no less a fact than stating it within the article of the characters.


      As far as contacting the bureaucrats, I messaged Original Authority in the other message of your and he comes around every so often and should eventually see it. If he's active but doesn't respond, I'd assume it was missed (and then another direct message can be sent), but as far as I know he's not been around lately. As far as Alaric is concerned, if you want feel free to ask for Alaric's input and refer to this thread - no need to have two separate conversations going on - as see what is opinion is on the matter. I don't see an issue with keeping the category. Alaric previously created and updated the category, so he may be the one to address or have his input in on the matter.

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  • Hi, Bennett Blood Mage 18 Can I give some suggestions?

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    • Sure. What are they?

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    • For a better organization of this fandom about TVD, TO and Legacies, you could create pages about all creatures that came out of Malivore and the ones that are yet to come and about the supernatural keys that open the locks of Malivore, including the one missing.

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    • Thank you for the message.

      Pages on get created when there is sufficient information to provide a page. Where appropriate 'species' pages that also serve with relevant "character" page elements are made because there is enough information, i.e. Dragon. For named characters with overlapping species information, the content is contained in a character page and, when related to the species, the character is used, i.e. Ablah - There's no need to have a Jinn article, since that information would be duplicated from Ablah's page. As far as the key's go, I'll add those to another page once the third key had been made known as that is relevant information as a whole, but there's not enough information as individuals to warrant a whole page.

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  • Hey

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  • I reported comments of user HereticEnhanced because he was calling me "crazy", "stupid" and saying that "I look like a mole". Can you or others admins delete these comments?

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    • I've responded to the post and locked it.

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    • Again thank you for your help. 

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  • Hello, Bennett Blood Mage

    According to the rules it's necessary to warn an administrator when one adds a video and I didn't but it wasn't voluntary. I never add video so I wanted to do a test but I misunderstood something and I added a video unintentionally. I wanted to explain my mistake before any confusion. I also wanted to know if I have to ask every time or if asking once was enough?

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    • Depending on what the video is form and where it's used. Episode realted vidoes, generally no. As long as they're not duplicate videos (with different file names). Usually a couple mods and or other users hand them. The asking an admin part is mainly about videos to other articles, i.e. characters, relationships, etc. We typically don't use a lot of videos on other pages, so it's better to ask about that prior to uploading. Videos and images in comments are acceptable only as links (not actually uploading the video). We have 95.5K images/videos and a lot are unused or used inappropriately (spanning almost 10 years however).

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    • So if tonight I decide to add promo videos or sneak peek to replace those who are no longer available, it's okay? Because I have the impression that a lot of videos needs to be replaced but I don't want you to think that I spam or other

      I also a question about creating a blog. I plan to create one that will be a bit like a review/analysis. I would talk about characters/couples/episodes, it will be longer than a simple comment and I could change it when I want if my opinion changes. I wanted to know if this kind of blog is accepting or judging useless and that it's better that I write on my profile?

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    • Episode video don't usually have a long life and stop working after a couple weeks. I've been discussing this with another mod. If you upload any to be replaced, give me the file names of the ones that no longer work so I can delete them.

      A blog is fine.

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    • Okay, the ones I wanted to replace

      - Legacies Some People Just Want To Watch The World Burn Trailer The CW

      - Legacies Malivore Promo The CW

      - Legacies Mombie Dearest Promo The CW

      - Legacies Death Keeps Knocking On My Door Promo The CW

      - Legacies What Was Hope Doing In Your Dream? Promo The CW

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  • I was wondering if we should make separate pages for the oneiroi and night hag? I know the oneiroi was taking the night hag's appearance to avoid detection in the episode, but there were some information revealed for both of the species.

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    • Alrighty. :) I'll be working on the Connor and Dana pages soon.

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    • Okay. Sounds good.

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  • Hi. I made an edit to the Penelope Park page yesterday-ish changing her eye color from brown to green and you reverted it back. I redid my edit a few minutes ago back to green eyes because the actress (Lulu) doesn't have brown eyes. I double checked by googling images of her and checking out some videos and her eyes are definitely not brown :)

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    • her eyes might also be categorized as hazel by some now that i'm thinking about it. so they're either green or hazel, but not brown. just look at her photo in the link :)

      https://vampirediaries.fandom.com/wiki/Lulu_Antariksa

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    • We go with what is shown in the show as physical appearance. Not based on outside appearance from candid appearances, etc. Depending on where you look about the actresses appearance they list her eyes as brown, hazel and even gray, but not green. As far as the shown is concerned, we look at canon episodes. However, another wiki with the actress lists her color as hazel, which another moderator as changed it too.

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    • I understand, but what is shown in the show isn't brown eyes anyways so the info was still incorrect. Her eyes are clearer in episode 2, but I figured it was easier to link to photo of her rather than suggest you (or another mod) rewatch her scenes. Regardless, thank you for replying, I appreciate it, and I did see that another mod made the corrections. Have a nice day/night :) 

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    • You as well.

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  • Maybe Salvatore School group should have page, however Avengers squad is a group that was actually mentioned in the show. Salvatore School's students and teachers defend Mystic Falls from creatures only as members of school, but the actual group was founded in Mombie Dearest by MG, Hope and maybe Penelope.

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    • It's not a legitimate formation of anything. All Hope said was that she had her own Avengers squad, i.e. she had backup to find Josie. Beyond that it's essentially the same as the group. They've all interacted and defeated various creatures together or separate. The Group page will stay as it is.

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    • Ok, I understand.

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