Yeah, when I looked it up I didn't exactly get a "clear" translation either. I'm thinking either the writers wrote it purposely that way to keep things a bit on the down low. Or, which is more likely, they really just don't know how to speak or write in Latin (or didn't get it "passed through" an expert first). That's my take.
When I first looked, I got the general impression that perhaps it was saying that if they "continued on their present course" with Klaus leading the full-charge and planning ALL of the actions that should be taken, they (including The Originals) would lose everything: the witches, the werewolves, the vampires, New Orleans, The Originals themselves, AND including (and this "might" be why the child was mentioned) the baby...
Their current path was one of "evil" and only ends in regret with complete loss and misery. Something like that. We'll see, though...
I imagine Hayely will "one day" click on Latin (how does Hayely not yet know--being involved in the supernatural 24/7--that witches USE LATIN for spells and otherwise not Greek or French, FFS--that bit makes me laugh a bit; I mean she is kind of dumb, but is she that daft?) and we'll get the "writer's version" of the translated message, I hope.
I saw your last post where you were discussing that Silas may be a wraith, very interesting Idea.You could be right, so far we've only had vampires, normal, original, tailor made(Alaric) but I would love for the show to expand the variety of creatures or villains kind of like a Secret Circle cross over in the VD witch world. I also saw people commenting that your posts are too long..I personally enjoy your ideas a lot and find that if people are really interested then long posts are richer and more informative than one liners and quips here or there.If everyone keeps the osts to one paragraph then going into details would become tricky. I want you to know that you dont really have to make them short the trick is to choose the topic or theme you are discussing and not get side tracked with other ideas just explore onet idea in detail at a time.Or if you have many ideas ask questions about a certain theme while giving your idea as a backdrop. I like to write a lot about my ideas as well so maybe I'm 'guilty' of the same ;) Otherwise keep up the good posts and if you want to post long posts maybe you can post them to my e-mail email@example.com.I would love to exchange ideas with you, you seem a talkative person so yeah don't shorten your posts by too much, if you have to do so by half or 60% not 90%!
I agree with what you're saying. I can't promise I'll get too short (especially due to some topics needing a foundation for some to "get"), but I will try to do it in less words. I will also try to keep my "off-topic" portions in other discussions or make a new one that covers that alone.
I usually don't re-read what I write. I'm going to try and make that a habit as it seems you're having trouble with the clarity of what I'm writing. I know that this can occur far too easily when I don't proof-read, especially if it's long.
Hi .... you've been seriously M.I.A Yoghurt , hope all is gud, I was surprised by the katherine twist as well.i actually reasoned it would be Stefan and was sure he'd take it and after seeing his doppelganger shocker i wish he had coz that way it would be easy to explain away Silas' vulnerability the writers would simply say that if Silas refused the cure then the one who took the cure would become Silas' achilles heel and hourglass as it were for if that person was killed Silas would die as well, but right now I am not impressed with Stefan being a doppelganger, i mean yes there are possibilities here but it's too much of the same thing for example one could say the petrova line did not start with Esther but actually Silas' dead lover as qetsia ensured her death would haunt Silas forever so it would all come back full circle with Stefan(As Silas) and Petrova(as Elena) immortal love.Unless in season 5 Silas as Stefan seeks to resurrect his lover and we find out it is another actress not a doppelganger.
Hello, glad you've been lurking around and checking up on things. I actually have written a few things, but I was unfortunately, incredibly lazy and didn't log in when I posted my some of the messages I have posted (I just figured I had auto-logged in, derp...). Anyway, a few of them were actually quite decent and reflect my current thoughts about what just exactly IS happening in Mystic Falls...
Here is the post I made awhile back as "A Wikia contributor 220.127.116.11" (which is certainly my IP ;p ); I thought I'd share it here as it is a fairly decent post that I was proud of (or atleast I'm "proud" to the extent that I do believe that I'm very likely correct on a lot of this information in some form and that I realized most of this within a few hourse after I watched the show's finale; now many share the same conclusions--so I feel bad I posted it without logging in, oh well). Here it is:
You know the fact that Silas is now a Stefan doppelgänger might mean that Silas's lost love was in fact one of those long lost "Petrova" doppelgängers pre-Tatia of course. Along this line we may also end up learning completely how doppelgängers are made in the first place--maybe they are a leftover of some extreme spell that has been now made to be diffused over time (thus spitting out "exact" copies or second lives over and over again...making it much like the immortality spell, but it's now one lifetime for one person of the same person but repeating endlessly, so as I said it's diffused--like a rainbow versus a solid beam of light). It could mean that a doppelgänger is literally the naturally "balanced" version of an extreme spell like Silas's immortality, spreading the immortality out forever just over many different lives. From what Silas said that is how I see it anyway, we'll see next season.
Anyway, now that Katherine is human and Bonnie is dead (leaving the show "witchless") something drastic will happen next season to resolve some of those issues for sure. I wonder who our next witch will be...
It's a good thing Jeremy is back so he can at least talk to ghosts and find out what exactly is going on that way (it may be the only way to find out that Stefan is underwater or that Silfan isn't "Stefan").
BTW, Bonnie died because she was increasingly NOT paying attention to all the little signs that are placed everywhere that say things like: "Watch out for falling rocks!", "Don't run!", "Steep incline.", "Deer crossing.", etc... She sadly needed to be reminded that power is not everything.
Anyway, I have been around I just haven't had much to post about...
Hello yes thanks for replying my Originals plotline idea, let me also go at length into your idea of the Petrova original being Silas' love.We think so alike I had this idea and honest to God I've been writing like 6 posts today to different answers even before coming on here to reply you.I too think the Petrova was Silas lover my simple argument is if Silas said being truly immortal magic had to create mortal incarnations of him to balance the 'equation' then first of all it would explain why Tatia was used by Esther in the mikaelson spell, she was the perfect ingerdient coz she was born as an image of a true immortal and so is an ingredient to any immortality spell .HOWEVER by the same token it means Tatia cannot be the originator because the doppelgangers are only reincarnations of an immortal.As she is dead there is no need for doppelgangers after her death SO logic dictates she is not the original(who as you gather is immortal)
Again Esther did not make the Mikaelsons trully immortal like Silas , he had no weakness(well save the cure) but that cure to me serves another purpose..as i may explain it is not really a weapon though many assume it is. The white oak stake and tree ash on daggers for Mikaelsons is . So that means the Mikaelsons while immortal are not invincible and so deopelgangers dont need to be born for the Mikaelson spell another reason why Tatia cannot be the originator of the petrovas.The originator is as immortal as Silas and is probably as old as Silas way before the Mikaelsons
Let's go back to the cure, in my view Qetsia probably tried to kill the Petrova but Silas being powerful must have put a shield on her or at least drew some of the spell off so she was in limbo like Esther dead but preserved! So that is how the doppelgangers are being born coz she has cheated death.Anyway so to me the cure was well for Silas, but also in Silas' grand plan it's for her so that he can feed it to her the magic that keeps her immortal wears off and she has a choice of living and loving him or dying and moving on which she cannot do. He kept the cure for her most probably or at least he wants to use it on her now(in my view Katherine's blood is the cure), at the very least if the cure is gone once Katherine dies so may Silas and so he may need to protect her and before he dies use her blood to revive his lover .I also think he did not want the other side destroyed but wanted it down to seal off Qetsia there alone so that if his lover died she would not be tortured by Qetsia. So to me Silas plot is still very rich
Ok let me not get carried away, as i said i swear I have been having the same idea as you and It amazes me how alike we reason lol. If you want to share general e-mails may e-mail is firstname.lastname@example.org otherwise thanks for replying my fanfic idea...true I aslo think original wolves will play a big part in NO in the Originals the mark of hayley is the key .I just want an immortal werewolf on the show as well and I see Henrik as being a wonderful link if writers used my idea but ah well Marcel has a secret so for now we may ake do with him as the arch villain though Henrik as an immortal werewolf would be so awesome that way the original family would speak for all 3 species Elijah, Finn,Kol and Rebecca for vampire lines, Klaus for hybrids and Henrik for werewolves or at least as their alpha king since his timeline .
My guess on the doppelgänger is that the first Petrova had immortality like Silas and most likely also had an original bloodline for a witch before she became an immortal like Silas. For all we know the Petrova bloodline may in fact BE the true Original Witch if she created the spell, if you follow what I'm saying and my line of thinking. It might explain the reason why Elena and Bonnie are great friends as well; their bloodlines literally draw each other together, like she is drawn to Stefan...like a weak sire bond on both sides from leftover residual magic. Besides your explanation, this too would also explain why her blood is so damned important in all magical spells, beyond just the residual immortality as well.
Can you imagine if we found out that not only was the Petrova bloodline the first doppelgänger, but Elena's bloodline was also the original witch! If this is true, at all, and the cure that Katherine took not only cured her of her vampirism, but if it exists her lasting immortality spell (getting rid of her doppelgänger too) Katherine may IN FACT be our NEW WITCH! Confirming that her bloodline is indeed the origin orf ALL witches!
Anyway, that means that doppelgängers came from Qetsyah trying to rid (possibly an old friend corrupted by the immortality spell, seeing as how Silas acts that wouldn't be surprising) the world of this spell, but she cast it incorrectly and ended up creating a new breed of magical being instead. The Cure was the answer to ALL of this and as I said if Katherine now has magic, then a lot of answers may have popped up about the past.
This is a wild theory, but can you imagine if it is even PARTIALLY true?! Anyway, do you think I should throw this up on the main discussion and let others take a guess at it?
I have absolutely no problems with you using blood magic at all. I actually had the idea in my mind from some old D&D and related things I used to play back in the day (usually requiring sacrifices, rituals, and of course...blood).
Although you may want to wait and see a little more of how Silas works to figure out what is happening. What I mean is that Bonnie, for sure, is using expression magic. This magic seems to be akin to large power sources that are left after when someone dies, like the energy spots that mass witch killings have left behind and which Bonnie has used. Expression may use any death, at all, draining the residual energy and releasing it. Although it seems possible that when there isn't enough energy around to accomplish the spell it starts to kill whoever is nearest (I assume stealing their lifeforce; like when Bonnie almost killed April to save Shane). Blood DOES play a role in this, but death seems to be the driving force. Death magic may be more appropriate to call expression if this is the main way it's used.
The problem is Silas. How does Silas access his power? Assuming what we've seen so far from Silas IS magic and not some ability granted by his transformation into an immortal being, then I think it would be safe to say that HIS magic is in fact blood magic. It may also have nothing in common with expression. It all depends, does Silas use expression to create these hallucinations and glamours (plus anything else). Or is blood fueling his abilities, which are extremely powerful and seem like magic. So far we don't have an answer.
I just realized recently that we really don't have any evidence so far that Silas can use magic at all anymore (which may be why he wants the cure, perhaps it is something that reconnects him to magic--something he created right before Qetsiyah entombed him, but she stopped him in time from drinking it--yet since he had it in his grasp and she had to stop him no matter what she had to bury him with it...the best, worst option). Everything Silas has done, power wise, has been limited to a certain variant and scope of abilities. For some reason he still needs Bonnie, which REALLY tells us that he indeed does not have access to any magic.
But, if his abilities ARE drawn from a form of expression (or if they are a type of magic unknown except to immortal, undead, or similar creatures) that he still has access to--since his transformation--it IS clear that blood is entirely what powers it. So if he is an immortal with magic like abilities, not only is it fair NOT to call it expression (as I don't think it is), I think blood magic is a very fair term to call it.
Also it should be remembered that vampires MUST have some type of magical type abilities (unless they were hallucinations, but they never seemed to be presented as such; kind of like an advanced compulsion for a vampire) as Damon at the start of the series showed that we don't know everything yet about them. First, he had compelled a crow and made it into a familiar (basically). He was also able to use some find of compulsion at extreme ranges as well; he called the crow to the window and also called Caroline to the Salvatore's house. Also, Damon seemed to have control of fog or could literally create it. Perhaps these powers manifest when vampires are extremely "dark" or there are certain special abilities among vampires (as I mentioned) that are still unexplored in the series.
Another one would be that Rebekah can tell when people are "holding things back" from her or others and even get a good idea if they are lying or telling the truth. That was partially explained by Klaus as he said that Esther's witch like abilites passed on to Rebekah. When she turned into a vampire she didn't keep the magic, but she did have extraordinary senses and intuition compared to her brothers; Klaus called her a "true or pure vampire" due to this fact. But, they have yet to ever explain how Damon did (they VERY vaguely hinted at what happened with Caroline, but no explanation) either...
Anyway, feel free to use any terms I create or use. I don't mind.
I would liked if they didn't create the cure or Silas, if he is the first vampire in the world, a true Original. What does that make The Originals? Because they are not truly Original. Because the storyline about The Originals was really good, and now it feels like just a waste of time.
What was the point of killing off Carol Lockwoood? It seems pointless. And I am confused on how Silas broke off the supposed indestructible stake, because it's now just worthless.
Well, I am working on my own fanfiction not based on Vampire Diaries, but on another show called Charmed. Maybe you have heard about it. I have almost created a storyline about Vampires and Dhampirs. I really don't like Twilight, I saw a little on the first movie because a friend asked me if I could give it a chance. I think it has destroyed the concept about Dhampirs.
They are Half Human and Half Vampire. I think that Dhampirs are so awesome, I am reffering to franchises about Bloodrayne and Blade and Underworld and no way to be confused to The Twilight franchise. Well I wasn't to happy about the Vampire Werewolf Hybrid storyline on Vampire Diaries.
Because I really love the Underworld franchise, and their concept about Vampire Werewolf Hybrids were so good. Thanks I really appreciate it that you took the time to answer me back. I didn't wanna give you the impression that I have ripped you off about the name.